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Moving from Low Carb to Higher levels

I plan to try bread as I miss that the most, but will get the Bergen one or the a waitrose one - even though it is so expensive! Sounds like these are least likely to make levels shoot up. But will not do this until reached target weight.


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I have a slice of bergen linseed and soya each day. Seems to provide a very stable BG response. I also buy rye bread from LIDL (as a bloomer) slice it up and freeze it. I was eating 2 of these slices a day. Had a little more BG response than the bergen but it was (by weight) more than double (very dense).
 
paulins said:
I plan to try bread as I miss that the most, but will get the Bergen one or the a waitrose one - even though it is so expensive! Sounds like these are least likely to make levels shoot up. But will not do this until reached target weight.


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It's expensive but I put it in the freezer and have one slice a day. Think I might try making eggy bread with it one day :-)



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Will try those ones. Thanks Andrew. Like the idea of slicing and freezing,


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Eggy bread! Heaven! My house smells of Sunday bacon rolls and it is torture! I love bacon rolls! Miss this much more than cakes or biscuits.


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bacon in a slice of bergen - have this often and you have tempted to to have it in 25 mins time
 
Scandichic said:
I think I was either 9.4 or 9.6. Naan bread wasn't much lower and when I had 4 mouthfuls of pasta it went up up 8.something. Imagine what would have happened if I'd eaten a child's portion! I dread to think! I had to ring the hospital to check the date of the appointment as I forgot to take the letter. I spoke to the lovely diabetic nurse at the hospital. She asked me how I was. I told her that I had now lost 2 stone 2lb (she told me that's fantastic!) and halved my hba1c. (She said she couldn't believe how well I'd done!) I told her that my was usually between 5.5 and 6.5. She told me that I needed to eat more carb. I patiently explained what happens when I eat rice, pasta and bread. She told me that I needed to eat more carb as it's a source of energy. :banghead:
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Scandi, after doing more research, there is honestly no evidence out there that says carbs are essential, there are no research papers at all. Particularly starchy carbs. When you think that pasta, rice potato has to be cooked to make it palatable and has also undergone processes, there is no reason to actually eat it as I know you have found out.
 
Andrew Colvin said:
I have a slice of bergen linseed and soya each day. Seems to provide a very stable BG response. I also buy rye bread from LIDL (as a bloomer) slice it up and freeze it. I was eating 2 of these slices a day. Had a little more BG response than the bergen but it was (by weight) more than double (very dense).
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I find the German Rye bread is an acquired taste, it's rather heavy and overpowering for my liking. I quite like the bread when its half wheat and half rye, some of the Polish breads are rather tasty.
 
Ah yes I agree the german stuff is but they also do a bloomer cooked in the bakery which is just like I used to have as a child
 
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Ah yes I agree the german stuff is but they also do a bloomer cooked in the bakery which is just like I used to have as a child
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Right, thanks Andrew I will look out for it next time I'm in Lidl :)
 
I am trying to introduce bit more carb into my diet slowly. Yesterday no carb for breakfast (bacon and one egg), lunch bit of carb, worked out on bike after one hour fine.
I thought I would avoid white rice but very little was was mixed up with some other grain for dinner, I did not think I would matter so much. My readings were after dinner: one hour 7.6, got on the bike after 2 hours 6, I was very happy until i tested after 3 hours and got 9.7 as it was late to do any exercises went to bed. Very disappointing results that was.
This morning it was 5.7, so lot of water and black tea plus 10 blueberries and few hazel nut so far. Also I noticed when I eat carb my weight goes up the next day (water). I get addicted to carb, I do not seems to manage with little at a time. May be early days to try this as I was diagnose in Feb, and next app in Sept.
Also I noticed when I increase carb levels my BS levels are mid 5's and high 5's whereas with VLCHF it is around 4's and low 5's.
Well I will keep trying on and off to balance my BS around low -medium 5.
 
9.7 at 3 hours means you had lots of fat with your carbs. Remember as I stated you have to get your pancreas used to eating it which means to start with it is going to be high levels until it recognises the amount needed. The lower carb you have been on the farther it has to rise.
 
You are right about the fat, had lot of butter too last night, well read.
 
i dont think because Andrew has chosen to do this experiment, others should try it. carbs are sugar.

just opinion,
 
Andy12345 said:
i dont think because Andrew has chosen to do this experiment, others should try it. carbs are sugar.

just opinion,
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Andy - obviously, I can't speak for Andrew, but from my perspective, I find it helpful to have a thread discussing this topic, as I'm in a similar position myself. The more people contribute, the better really. After all, not all of those posts will be reporting positive outcomes, and that, over time, gives a rounded view.

I have stated my reasons for my activity, and that remains valid. Everyone else must find their own way forward, like they must with the bigger diet picture. That not everyone agrees with this is healthy. It's a variation on what happens with the LCHF versus other diet threads. That not everyone agrees with LCHF is the way of the world, but it's valid all diets are discussed.

There are often threads about having a day off, or treating high days and holidays differently. They're equally valid. Personally, I haven't had a day off from my eating regime since diagnosis, and that covers my birthday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, my OH's birthday, Easter and several breakfast, lunch and dinner parties. We all approach this differently.

Your opinion is extremely valid; I just don't concur with your opinion, in this instance. If the subject matter was a Chelsea bun, ice cream and chips diet, I'm sure we'd both be on the same wavelength.
 
I'm interested in what Andrew and others have to say because it won't be very long before I have to re-think my own diet. I am fast approaching my goal weight, and once I do I don't want to keep losing, nor do I want to gain. I am struggling to work out how to do this without increasing my BS levels.
 
I'm hoping one day, when my derriere no longer resembles Beyonce's entire dance troupe, that I'll be able to think about the odd higher carb item, though the improvement in my IBS since knocking bread and pasta on the head has been such that I can't see them ever making a great re-entry. That said, I know that carbs have been my biggest food issue and that I could so easily pile any weight lost back on and more, which is what landed me here in the first place, so it is more likely to be the odd day with higher carbs than regularly consuming them at breakfast , lunch and dinner. Still it is interesting to see how far the envelope can be pushed before the disease bites back.
 
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