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New diagnosis as type 2 Hba1c test 104 and in shock

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by Andy_J, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Andy_J

    Andy_J · Member

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    Thanks everyone for advice, its just the change to full fat is what I have to get used to , but get some of it now they reduce fat and add sugars/carbs for taste. I read so much contradictory advice off the dreaded google I sooner reach out to people on here for more practical advise as some interesting suggestions. Love the idea of soda stream as not seen one of those in years but they do still make them which made me smile. I guess what was/is the most difficult is getting a general plan of what I can eat as a base matrix I guess.

    It felt weird having bacon and egg for breakfast today , but its what I need to do.

    Quite a few people have reminded me on other teas as I do love earl grey tea with lemon ( no milk ) so will be going back to that again now.

    I do really appreciate the comments, feel free to send any ideas to me as its always welcome.
     
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  2. Crocodile

    Crocodile Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes it seems like that. There is quite a variation in circumstances. Some are Type 1, some Type 2 and some other variants all requiring different approaches. For me at least I still don't understand why T1 and T2 are both categorised as diabetes when the two conditions are quite different. Despite that, the underlying theme is mostly similar. That is, Carbohydrates are not good for us. That really leaves only fats and proteins for our energy needs.
     
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  3. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Expert

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    @Andy_J , Small tip when it comes to contradictory advice: If something seems like a thing you want to try, use your meter when you do. It won't try to sell you on some diet or dogma, it'll just tell you whether it works for you or not. The internet is full of opinions, actual experts, botched/biased research and bona fide whackjobs, so.... Trust the meter. ;)
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Try double cream maybe? Fewer carbs.. or lactofree milk has almost half the carb content of regular milk.
     
  5. Perminder1

    Perminder1 · Well-Known Member

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    I felt sane in March 20 when cut out all sugar and went low carbish I was sweating shaking ie like someone going cold turkey it goes after two weeks or so u will loose weight sugar is nasty stuff when gone u will feel healthier have more energy etc I cut out biscuit cakes sugar in tea etc also cut out pasta bread potatoes as much as possible I started walk 1 hour every day briskly and also cycling I am 47 now in end of June feel better ac1 due soon on metoformin x 3 my bs is normally 5.5 ish hopefully ac1 will have dropped from 90 it was in March 20 try not to stress worry etc you will be fine also great support on here smile now and have drink I just had tea no sugar of course ...I occasionally have shreded wheat only one in milk mind u
     
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    Perminder1 · Well-Known Member

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    We learn as we go internet makes u panic when there no need too...
     
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    Omelette r good
     
  8. Andy_J

    Andy_J · Member

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    Ok, another question.

    I test every day first thing before any breakfast or medication and keep accurate notes of times.

    I have cut out all what I call direct sugar from fruit juice, and sugar in drinks as I read the labels on everything now. The volume of carbs has been cut right back , but how quickly would I expect to see a drop in my sugar test levels or do I need to do more or be patient.

    As an example my morning test for the past 5 days was 13.7, 14.6, 16.9,12.9.12.8.

    Now I was one 500mb first thing before breakfast , and on day 3 it went to also include one before evening meal, if I can not be dependant on tablets if thats possible and control with diet then I would like that but just not sure how quick the changes in diet would impact.

    If I am cutting all of it out (sugar/carb) would I see an immediate impact or not , should I test more, or do you think I am missing something else in my diet ( its had a major change) in the past 7 days in comparison to previous weeks..

    PS ordered that book "The Diabetes code" should arrive today.
     
  9. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Expert

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    What are you currently eating? You're still pretty high, but you're only just getting started. Your liver needs some time to get clued in, and it is always slow on the uptake, and quick on the glucose dump. ;) Fasting blood glucose is the last to come down anyway. (Could be weeks, could be 6 months. A looooong time). That's why it's usually more motivating to see changes in pre and post prandial, because those show more immediate progress, on top of being more informative about the meals themselves. You are seeing a difference, it is going down, slowly.... So you're on the right track.
     
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    I was diagnosed type 2 (satisfactory c-pep, neg antibodies) with a1c of 107 in March. Initially put on insulin but now just take metformin. I’m 31 and weigh 15 and a half stone.

    Changed my diet completely so I eat a lot of meat and more fat now. Have about 80g carbs a day maybe less and I’ve gotten my fasted blood sugar down to 5.5 every day and I rarely have a post pandrial reading of above 6.8. Lost 3 stone since diagnosis.

    It can be done mate and I the occasional treat is fine but don’t go eating your old diet every day again. I had an ice cream down the seaside yesterday and my reading was 4.7 two hours after so there is a balance to be had.
     
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  11. Andy_J

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    The diet change is hardest for me, still trying as I look back and think oh @@@@. Some odd changes I am sleeping great, not just as I don't pee at night but sleep like a log and feel refreshed. The morning test was going down before food, had a jump today so we'll annoyed but see what tomorrow brings.

    I do miss my fruit and fruit juice and cerials, bread and that's just about gone. Had two slices of bread today but its the low carbs one, will bin that off if needed.

    I'm trying to make up recipes that I can enjoy, would love to know what ppl snack on
     
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    Been slowly going down since diagnosis, when it hit a morning test of 17 I was shocked, now down to a morning test of 8.9. So it's on the right track considering where I started. Diet changes have been major and I do crave some foods. Weight is going down as I can see the changes. Not sure how long before it goes down further. Started testing post meals and pre meals. Just expected a bigger drop sooner. Is this to be expected?
     
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    brewbags? do you mean the bags the teas come in? if so what about clipper teas, their bags are supposed to be natural and they are in all the major supermarkets and most health shops?
     
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    I was speaking specifically of cold brew infusion bags. Some are plastic and some are more eco friendly.
     
  15. Crocodile

    Crocodile Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You're doing good. A few years since diagnosis for me but from memory mine took a good few months to come down to consistent normal readings. Low carbs and losing weight were the biggest factors. Mine was 22.5 at diagnosis and fasting was 15.5 and checking my old spreadsheet it took four months to get to the point where I was under 6 before meals and under 8 2 hours later. Also lost 18kg in 9 months starting at 107kg down to 89kg. Today, low 5s before meals and high 6s to low 7s 2 hours later on less than 20g of carbs per meal. Hang in there.
     
  16. Andy_J

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    It's going down still, just adjusting and trying to keep carbs so low is hard. Post food spikes are scarey as testing pre and post food but I guess thats expected. I do get tired earlier in evening and sleep better.

    Weight loss is slowing but happy to lose more just I admit its hard not being able to talk to someone about it for tips so this site is great.
     
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    Olive_B Type 2 · Member

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    I don't have much help to offer as I'm still very new to this all. Just wanted to say I empathize with how **** it is dealing with the cravings!
     
  18. Andy_J

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    Yes the cravings are a killer, levels going down, had a weird day as it dropped to just over 4 and felt like ****. Doing the 2 hour post meal test gives me unexpected results some days as I record every item I eat. So I'm averaging this week at 6 the other week it was average at 12.
     
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    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    You’re doing great. An unusual 4 can feel **** because your simply not used to it. With time lower numbers will feel more normal. Whilst food is the biggest factor by far other things like stress, sleep, illness, activities all can have effects too.

    We all reach different “normals”. If you’re averaging 6 after such a short time the outlook is excellent for you. 2 yrs down the line and a 15kg weight loss in the first 6 months still leaves me mid 6’s a lot, occasionally high 5’s, hb1ac low 40’s. Not as good as some but a whole lot better than I’d be without low carb for sure!
     
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    I hardly drink water. I normally have fanta zero sugar or tesco ginger beer. no carbs or sugar in them. my bg levels are between 4 and 5, I have to be careful because of my low range and always carry something sweet with me in case of a hypo, but there are alternatives, try a low carb diet it'd be the best thing you can do. some people do 150g a day, i do 30g or lower a day, and the food is delicious.
     
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