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New to this forum and Type 2

Bondedge

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Was recommended this website by a non-diabetic friend that most likely searched it during days I was desperate for help.

I've been living as a type 2 unknowingly for quite a while! I had a root canal surgery that went wrong and was in a deal of pain for almost 2 months. Whenever I took the prescribed celebrex pain meds, I noticed my legs would shake and later on become very very numb and feel like its stiff and bloated. Doc said it was normal though it should have been towards my nerves in my tooth being treated. 2 months of trying to move as least as possible during the treatment that I had to endure that later became a super-infection and had the strongest antibiotics as the last week for treatment. Only comfort I had during the pain was food and a very inactive 2 months lifestyle.

Some of you might have thought and figured it out by now that these complications and why it progressed and moved the way it did! Bacteria loves glucose and diabetes have a high risk of infection. The numbness in my legs due to chronic high blood glucose and beginning of nerve damage (diabetic peripheral neuropathy), pain medication not working as intended.

A month after my ordeal, I had a physical exam for internship as a medical technologist. Shockingly I had a 4+ glucose in my urine which the professional advised me to later then take a fasting blood sugar test. I was afraid of possible outcome and delayed the test for 5 days, but during those 5 days, I ate only vegetables and eggs twice a day. The day of the testing, I was given the result of a 198mg/dL FBS. Shocked me to realize the present condition of my own body! I then took my HbA1c for the average glucose of 3 months, and to heart stopping shock, I was given the result of 10.4!
"It couldn't be... Both my parents are not diabetic, and my body is scrawny. Hell, I'm underweight!"

I then realized why I had sharp thundershock pains plaguing me when trying to sleep at night with random attacks during the day.
I was poisoning my body with chronic high glucose to the point of peripheral neuropathy.

I can barely feel my left leg from the knee down, and my right leg is still alive but suffering the immense pain.
It's spread to my forearm and have tingling fingers which is depressing when I try to extract blood from patients at the hospital that makes it increasingly difficult.

I've consulted 4 doctors and each of them tell these things:
1) Control hyperglycemia with a control diet
2) Take vitamin B complex twice a day for the neuropathy
3) Take metformin thrice a day
4) Continue eating 160-180g of carbs a day or 60g per meal
5) Diabetes is irreversible

I've been on a 0 to less than 10 carbs per day diet for about a month now because I've noticed that anything above that, seriously activates my neuropathy and pain like a thunderstorm brewing until the uncontrollable thunderstrike hits you repeatedly.

I've tried the 160-180g control when I still had feeling in my left leg, and now almost lost it and losing other parts of my periphery before I made the change.

I take metformin once a day and only eat once a day with an incredibly strict yet filling 0 to low carb meals and still take vitamin B complex as prescribed though I'm not sure if its helping at all since my neuropathy is still progressing.

And I now live with a mindset that diabetes is reversible.

Its only been 2 months after I've taken my first HbA1c test instead of the recommended 3 months so I'm aware of the false increase for that 1 month of stuffing my mouth with carbs before my surgery, but I've reduced my HbA1c down from 10.4 to a 7.5! At the 3 month mark, I'm hoping for an even better result due to my determination and diligence to my body.

Although I've been fighting this for a few months now, I'm still extremely new to this apart from what my doctors and my studies during college tell me. I'd love to hear and learn from those going through this outside of the textbook, and even outside of medicine.

I'm hoping you will all accept me into your community as a person who desperately seek knowledge and information, guidance and a hand to reach out to when people around me can't.
Thank you for taking your valuable time to read the recent life-story of a random stranger online.

Now a single question: What is the best and monetarily, at least a little easier to maintain, glucometer? Student with a low budget trying his best here haha
 
Hello, welcome :)
Sending you hugs your way! Things will get better and you're not alone in this party. I think @bulkbiker, @Jim Lahey and @Rachox have a recommendation for a blood glucose meter, budget friendly to monitor your readings and improve your ways to manage it better.
 
Was recommended this website by a non-diabetic friend that most likely searched it during days I was desperate for help.

I've been living as a type 2 unknowingly for quite a while! I had a root canal surgery that went wrong and was in a deal of pain for almost 2 months. Whenever I took the prescribed celebrex pain meds, I noticed my legs would shake and later on become very very numb and feel like its stiff and bloated. Doc said it was normal though it should have been towards my nerves in my tooth being treated. 2 months of trying to move as least as possible during the treatment that I had to endure that later became a super-infection and had the strongest antibiotics as the last week for treatment. Only comfort I had during the pain was food and a very inactive 2 months lifestyle.

Some of you might have thought and figured it out by now that these complications and why it progressed and moved the way it did! Bacteria loves glucose and diabetes have a high risk of infection. The numbness in my legs due to chronic high blood glucose and beginning of nerve damage (diabetic peripheral neuropathy), pain medication not working as intended.

A month after my ordeal, I had a physical exam for internship as a medical technologist. Shockingly I had a 4+ glucose in my urine which the professional advised me to later then take a fasting blood sugar test. I was afraid of possible outcome and delayed the test for 5 days, but during those 5 days, I ate only vegetables and eggs twice a day. The day of the testing, I was given the result of a 198mg/dL FBS. Shocked me to realize the present condition of my own body! I then took my HbA1c for the average glucose of 3 months, and to heart stopping shock, I was given the result of 10.4!
"It couldn't be... Both my parents are not diabetic, and my body is scrawny. Hell, I'm underweight!"

I then realized why I had sharp thundershock pains plaguing me when trying to sleep at night with random attacks during the day.
I was poisoning my body with chronic high glucose to the point of peripheral neuropathy.

I can barely feel my left leg from the knee down, and my right leg is still alive but suffering the immense pain.
It's spread to my forearm and have tingling fingers which is depressing when I try to extract blood from patients at the hospital that makes it increasingly difficult.

I've consulted 4 doctors and each of them tell these things:
1) Control hyperglycemia with a control diet
2) Take vitamin B complex twice a day for the neuropathy
3) Take metformin thrice a day
4) Continue eating 160-180g of carbs a day or 60g per meal
5) Diabetes is irreversible

I've been on a 0 to less than 10 carbs per day diet for about a month now because I've noticed that anything above that, seriously activates my neuropathy and pain like a thunderstorm brewing until the uncontrollable thunderstrike hits you repeatedly.

I've tried the 160-180g control when I still had feeling in my left leg, and now almost lost it and losing other parts of my periphery before I made the change.

I take metformin once a day and only eat once a day with an incredibly strict yet filling 0 to low carb meals and still take vitamin B complex as prescribed though I'm not sure if its helping at all since my neuropathy is still progressing.

And I now live with a mindset that diabetes is reversible.

Its only been 2 months after I've taken my first HbA1c test instead of the recommended 3 months so I'm aware of the false increase for that 1 month of stuffing my mouth with carbs before my surgery, but I've reduced my HbA1c down from 10.4 to a 7.5! At the 3 month mark, I'm hoping for an even better result due to my determination and diligence to my body.

Although I've been fighting this for a few months now, I'm still extremely new to this apart from what my doctors and my studies during college tell me. I'd love to hear and learn from those going through this outside of the textbook, and even outside of medicine.

I'm hoping you will all accept me into your community as a person who desperately seek knowledge and information, guidance and a hand to reach out to when people around me can't.
Thank you for taking your valuable time to read the recent life-story of a random stranger online.

Now a single question: What is the best and monetarily, at least a little easier to maintain, glucometer? Student with a low budget trying his best here haha
Let me just say I am super impressed with how you have been taking this and the already great HBA1C reduction, go you! Things will get better over time and that is the best mindset to take, I have so much faith in you being able to beat this and there are so many members that have done it as well (I guess I can count myself in that too but it's not as great as others honestly!) Keep it up, keep asking questions and we will do everything we can to welcome you and answer any questions you have.

Also @MeiChanski I just giggled at that Yasuo picture of yours!
 
Was recommended this website by a non-diabetic friend that most likely searched it during days I was desperate for help.

I've been living as a type 2 unknowingly for quite a while! I had a root canal surgery that went wrong and was in a deal of pain for almost 2 months. Whenever I took the prescribed celebrex pain meds, I noticed my legs would shake and later on become very very numb and feel like its stiff and bloated. Doc said it was normal though it should have been towards my nerves in my tooth being treated. 2 months of trying to move as least as possible during the treatment that I had to endure that later became a super-infection and had the strongest antibiotics as the last week for treatment. Only comfort I had during the pain was food and a very inactive 2 months lifestyle.

Some of you might have thought and figured it out by now that these complications and why it progressed and moved the way it did! Bacteria loves glucose and diabetes have a high risk of infection. The numbness in my legs due to chronic high blood glucose and beginning of nerve damage (diabetic peripheral neuropathy), pain medication not working as intended.

A month after my ordeal, I had a physical exam for internship as a medical technologist. Shockingly I had a 4+ glucose in my urine which the professional advised me to later then take a fasting blood sugar test. I was afraid of possible outcome and delayed the test for 5 days, but during those 5 days, I ate only vegetables and eggs twice a day. The day of the testing, I was given the result of a 198mg/dL FBS. Shocked me to realize the present condition of my own body! I then took my HbA1c for the average glucose of 3 months, and to heart stopping shock, I was given the result of 10.4!
"It couldn't be... Both my parents are not diabetic, and my body is scrawny. Hell, I'm underweight!"

I then realized why I had sharp thundershock pains plaguing me when trying to sleep at night with random attacks during the day.
I was poisoning my body with chronic high glucose to the point of peripheral neuropathy.

I can barely feel my left leg from the knee down, and my right leg is still alive but suffering the immense pain.
It's spread to my forearm and have tingling fingers which is depressing when I try to extract blood from patients at the hospital that makes it increasingly difficult.

I've consulted 4 doctors and each of them tell these things:
1) Control hyperglycemia with a control diet
2) Take vitamin B complex twice a day for the neuropathy
3) Take metformin thrice a day
4) Continue eating 160-180g of carbs a day or 60g per meal
5) Diabetes is irreversible

I've been on a 0 to less than 10 carbs per day diet for about a month now because I've noticed that anything above that, seriously activates my neuropathy and pain like a thunderstorm brewing until the uncontrollable thunderstrike hits you repeatedly.

I've tried the 160-180g control when I still had feeling in my left leg, and now almost lost it and losing other parts of my periphery before I made the change.

I take metformin once a day and only eat once a day with an incredibly strict yet filling 0 to low carb meals and still take vitamin B complex as prescribed though I'm not sure if its helping at all since my neuropathy is still progressing.

And I now live with a mindset that diabetes is reversible.

Its only been 2 months after I've taken my first HbA1c test instead of the recommended 3 months so I'm aware of the false increase for that 1 month of stuffing my mouth with carbs before my surgery, but I've reduced my HbA1c down from 10.4 to a 7.5! At the 3 month mark, I'm hoping for an even better result due to my determination and diligence to my body.

Although I've been fighting this for a few months now, I'm still extremely new to this apart from what my doctors and my studies during college tell me. I'd love to hear and learn from those going through this outside of the textbook, and even outside of medicine.

I'm hoping you will all accept me into your community as a person who desperately seek knowledge and information, guidance and a hand to reach out to when people around me can't.
Thank you for taking your valuable time to read the recent life-story of a random stranger online.

Now a single question: What is the best and monetarily, at least a little easier to maintain, glucometer? Student with a low budget trying his best here haha
I think that'd probably be the codefree, but others will be along with the info. All in all... Yeah, T2 is reversible. Not curable, mind you, but you can be a-symptomatic and medication/complication-free. And I believe @Jim Lahey got his neuropathy licked, but it took some time. Guess it depends on the extent of the damage, and from what I remember his got worse before it got better. Still... It's not all doom and gloom. T2 just requires you getting the hang of it, and I have a feeling you'll "get it" faster than some. ;) (Took me a few months to figure it all out, because I didn't find this forum straight off.)

Good luck!
Jo
 
Here’s some info on meters, and to be clear I have no commercial connections with any of the companies mentioned. For a meter with cheap strips go for the Tee2 + found here:

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-plus-blood-glucose-meter/ with the strips found here:

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-testing-strips/


With more expensive strips is the Caresens Dual which I currently use, this one has the advantage of glucose and ketone testing in one machine, it’s to be found here:

https://shop.spirit-health.co.uk/collections/caresens-dual


And to be totally transparent I used to use the SD Code Free which has the cheapest strips available. However I found itto be becoming less and less reliable. Here it is for anyone wanting to give it a go:

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips

http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.

5 packs 264086

10 packs 975833


Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for all meters and strips)
 
Hi. Did you say you were underweight? If so you may be late onset T1 and not T2 in which case the normal treatment would be insulin. There are two tests for T1. Telling someone to have to 160g to 180g carbs per day when the BS is that high is plain crazy and can only make your diabetes worse. As you realise you must keep the carbs down as far as you reasonably can and it's OK to have fats and proteins. Note that metformin never has that much effect and there are other tablets or insulin that can be prescribed depending on your type. I believe you may be in the USA? In the UK many people buy the SD Codefree meter (from Amazon.co.uk) as it has low-cost strips. It also appears to be available from Amazon.com.
 
Hi @Bondedge

sad to hear that mate.

as said the carb count is way too high for a type 2..
though we do have tofi..(.thin on the outside, fat on the inside.)
you should make sure the diagnosis is correct as T2D.

good advice above, and @Jim Lahey is probably as close an expert of neuropathy as we got.

For my bit. i was worried about the b12..(got mine checked at last HBA1c..and it's normal )
but in my research i found a few pointers that Sublingual, works best unless it's injection
But the sublingual i could only get from amazon.

here is a link i found just now..interesting stuff.
https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/rea...0-2019/2016/vol-129-no-1436-10-june-2016/6920

If your taking supplement, and legs are hurting, it might be worthwhile investigating that a little more in depth
as the benefits do seem worth the extra effort finding it.
 
Hi, @Bondedge.

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I second what others have said about daily carb counts. 160-180 is way too many! :)

If you are in the US, you might want to check out Walmart's Relion Prime meter. I have one as my backup and the strips are reasonable in price. I have this one: https://www.walmart.com/ip/ReliOn-Prime-Blood-Glucose-Monitoring-System-Red/20752267

My primary meter is a OneTouch Ultra, which I get through Medicare, with test strips, but I could not afford them if I had to pay out of pocket.
 
In USA I use a one touch ultra and use GenUltimate strips I order online from Walmart.They cost 37 dollars delivered for 300 strips (3 boxes/100 each).Best deal Ive found,and plenty accurate for type 2 folks.
 
Hi and welcome, and well done for hitting this head on and with such determination!

As @jjraak says, you may find it helpful to get your b12 level checked. It is a fairly standard blood test. Sometimes symptoms of neuropathy are caused by low b12 rather than high blood glucose. And while keeping glucose under control is vital to prevent diabetic complications, you would need b12 to deal with b12 complications. Always worth covering all your bases, just in case...
 
Hi again. Probably worth saying that Gabapentin is sometimes prescribed for nerve pain. I'm not a doctor and it may not be relevant at all for your condition but may be worth suggesting to the Doc if nothing else is offered apart from controlling the BS of course.
 
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