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Jlewis

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Type of diabetes
Prefer not to say
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hey everyone so I was diagnosed yesterday. But they don't seem to know what type I have yet. There were no ketones in my blood or urine so looks like type 2 but not sure yet,

They put me on tablets and I took them and this morning my blood sugar was down from 32 the previous day to 8 by the morning then when I tested again before dinner it was 7 so I was happy and thinking it could be controlled but then before dinner it was 10.8 and now before bed it was 18.3. It's annoying as I thought it was doing okay but it seems to have gone up again. I really want to be able to control it with tablets as I seriously don't want to be using injections.
 
Hello @Jlewis Welcome to the forum what were the events like leading up to your diagnosis ? You can ask for a GAD test which will determine if your body is producing the antobodies which are present in type 1. Unfortunately if your blood glucose levels remain uncontrolled then insulin will be your best way of controlling them, although it's early days with your diagnosis, keep in touch with your team as they will be able to work a plan of action out with you.
 
welcome here Jlewis

I´ll tag @daisy1 so you´ll get the very valuable information every new person in here gets...

untill you know what kind of diabetes you have it can be very difficult to advice you... but don´t think a few days extra on high blood glucose is doing so much difference... so be patient... then later you´ll take the long hard work of doing all the daily ways to keep blood glucose stable...

insuline can really be a good thing in some cases... don´t avoid it by all means.. and most get used to that as well..
 
Try and stay on tablets. Being on insulin can be rather trying at times. Make sure you control your diet and keep your fluid content up. Avoid diet sodas as you get adverse reactions as normal sugar laden beverages. Anything cured can be a reason for adverse BGL's.
 
@Jlewis

Hello and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Hi @Jlewis and welcome to the forum! You will get a lot of support and good advice on here.
 
Hi and welcome. Can you let us know your BMI/weight and whether you have lost weight recently. Your avatar implies you are quite slim and if so then late onset T1 becomes possible rather than T2. I assume the tablets you were given are Metformin? These always help a bit but won't affect your blood sugar by more than a mmol or so. A low-carb diet is good for all of us, but if you are a T1 then you will need more than metformin and eventually insulin; the route I've gone down. As others have said, if you are slim then do ask the GP for GAD and c-peptide tests. Some GPs are well up on late onset T1 but others haven't a clue (as mine didn't). Do come back here for more help if needed.
 
Probably should've given more details. I had no symptoms of it and the tablets I'm on are glicazide. Also as an update this morning they were 7.6 but for lunch they were 14
 

If you're Type 1 it would be best to know as early introduction of insulin can help preserve your remaining beta cells for longer. Also, some Type 2 meds are contra-indicated for Type 1s - some because they don't work, others because then can affect your remaining insulin producing cells.

Ask for a GAD test and a referral to a specialist if you haven't seen one already. You may possibly be Type 2 but the number of Type 1s misdiagnosed as Type 2 is surprisingly high. Knowing what type you are will help you get the appropriate treatment.
 
Probably should've given more details. I had no symptoms of it and the tablets I'm on are glicazide. Also as an update this morning they were 7.6 but for lunch they were 14
Hi. Thanks. Gliclazide is a good choice to start with to stimulate the pancreas assuming it's starting to fail towards T1. It's a drug I was on for years (too long). If you still have islet cells left then the drug can be very effective in the short term and watch out for hypos. As @azure says, if you are T1 then it's best to get off Gliclazide and onto insulin sooner rather then later. Some say the this drug can in some cases over-stimulate the islet cells whereas insulin doesn't work that way. Let's hope you can get a more positive diagnosis shortly.
 
Yes, I understand the point that if you are a full blown T1 i.e. with few islet cells then Gliazide is not only pointless but can burn-out the remaining cells if you agree with that theory - I have an open mind on that. The problem is that many of the mis-diagnosed T1s listed as T2, such as myself, can be on Gliclazide for years as the honeymoon period hides the T1. I was on full dose 320mg probably for 6 years or more! I even had to ask my good DN who started me on insulin to stop my Gliclazide. It's a big problem area and part of the NHS/DUK problem in not recognising late onset T1 and placing people into the catch-all T2 category. You could also argue that Gliclazide has no role at all in diabetes and that insulin should be started very early? I don't necessarily agree with that view but it's role may be limited
 
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