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newbie 2nd wk into my diagnose t2

theresaw64

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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hi im theresa 53 and recently diagnosed with t2 and fm double whammy lol
i am just having a nose around here, so i thought i would introduce myself, looking forward to having chats and asking questions on here, not got my head around this at moment but i will,
so hi to all who read this xxx
 
Hi and welcome to the Forum and sorry to hear about your double diagnoses.
As is tradition here I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful intro post.
Have a read around and ask any questions, there’ll always be someone to help.
 
Hi and welcome to the Forum and sorry to hear about your double diagnoses.
As is tradition here I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful intro post.
Have a read around and ask any questions, there’ll always be someone to help.
hi Rachox
thank you, i really dont know very much about either of the diagnoses as yet, i have had to change my meds already due to the pooing and headaches so on met s/r now and it has all calmed down dr has put me on 1500 a day i dont even know if this a normal amount, i havent asked the right questions so far, but i will, this seems like a really good site with lots of help, glad i joined xx
 
Hi and welcome to the Forum and sorry to hear about your double diagnoses.
As is tradition here I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful intro post.
Have a read around and ask any questions, there’ll always be someone to help.
hi Rachox
thank you, i really dont know very much about either of the diagnoses as yet, i have had to change my meds already due to the pooing and headaches so on met s/r now and it has all calmed down dr has put me on 1500 a day i dont even know if this a normal amount, i havent asked the right questions so far, but i will
Hi and welcome to the Forum and sorry to hear about your double diagnoses.
As is tradition here I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful intro post.
Have a read around and ask any questions, there’ll always be someone to help.
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@theresaw64 I don't know how I managed to do a double reply!!! I only typed it once so have no idea how it posted twice. But anyway, welcome welcome! Sorry, just realised that you did the double reply and not me! I think I need my bed.......
 
sorry for the double reply
Bit of a glitch on the forum at the moment! You will see lots of double posts.

Welcome. Have a good read of Daisy1's post when it lands. Read around the forum and ask lots of questions.

If you don't know your HbA1c number, find out from your surgery.
 
hi im theresa 53 and recently diagnosed with t2 and fm double whammy lol
i am just having a nose around here, so i thought i would introduce myself, looking forward to having chats and asking questions on here, not got my head around this at moment but i will,
so hi to all who read this xxx


Hey Theresa,

Changing your diet could help both issues: from what I understand, the ketogenic diet also can have a positive impact on FM. (Maybe google it?) So it wouldn't just get your bloodsugars back into the normal, non-diabetic range in all likelyhood, but help with those symptoms as well... Normally I'd suggest going LCHF to start with, (low carb, high fat) but keto has an entirely different threshhold, and I don't know if LCHF would hit the spot for FM. So this is just a suggestion, but may be something to look into. I know keto made a difference for my foodintolerances, obesity and fatigue, as well as my depression/anxiety, so for something as relatively simple as a diet, it does go a long way. Just keep in mind I'm not a medical professional. You might want to check out the books by Dr. Jason Fung, and the dietdoctor website. I'll give a quick rundown about keto in short, and you can decide whether you think it might be workable for you. If it's not, hey, LCHF works for a lot of diabetics (no idea what it does for FM), and if that isn't an option for you, meds are still a viable one. Only drawback of those is that they don't usually put you in remission, diabetically speaking, and diets do. Anyway... Information overload up ahead:

Keto is eating 20 grams of carbs a day or less. If you do that, your body becomes fat-adapted. That means it stops using carbs for fuel (carbs is what diabetics can't process, and what gives us high blood sugars), and instead switches to burning fat. While we detox we can experience carb-flu, but it lasts for a few days/up to 2 weeks, and can be mitigated by drinking bone broth or coconut milk: just keep your salt and electrolytes up. (Potassium; it's in avocado if you don't like taking supplements. Don't go for bananas!). In any case... 20 grams of carbs a day can be ingested in a variety of ways... Start the day with a tea or coffee, and leave it at that, or add 3 eggs, bacon, cheese and cherry tomatoes or mushrooms. Or maybe a bit of full fat greek yoghurt with a few berries, walnuts, some coconut? Lunch might be leafy greens with a can of tuna, mayo, avocado, capers and olives. Dinner? Meat, fish, above-ground vegetables. I found cauliflower rice and broccoli-rice to be quite versatile. (I add bacon and cheese to mine, and a variety of herbs) Snacks? Extra dark chocolate, cheese, rashers, olives, walnuts, pecans, such low carb things... Always in moderation. Key is enjoying what you eat, and not going hunrgy. It's easier to stick with a diet that you'll probably commit to for a lifetime, if you enjoy it rather than experience it as punishment.

As stated, us T2's can't process carbs, and all carbs, once ingested, turn into glucose. So the fewer carbs you eat, the lower your bloodsugars will be. That's also why new members are usually advised to get a meter. NHS won't fund them when not on insulin, but without it, you won't know what foods agree with you and which don't. If you test before a meal and 2 hours after first bite, and it didn't go up more than 2 mmol/l, then that meal was excellent for you and can safely be repeated. So what are carb-heavy foods which are to be avoided? Bread, rice, potatoes, cereal, pasta, corn, oats, fruits save for berries in moderation... That inclused the brown stuff, because whether it's white bread/rice/pasta, or brown, doesn't much matter for us diabetics, sadly.

I see you're on meds, so if you try a diet, please don't start it if you don't have a meter; you need to know what's going on. (Not sure metformin can make you hypo, I keep forgetting because I don't use it anymore myself. I lived in the loo when i was on that stuff. It got me looking for alternatives actually; that's when I found diet as an option!) And having medical guidance is nice, but doctors tend to be a little bit behind on the times. Mine is using me as a guineau-pig, as I'm the only one in her practice who's gone down this road... And I am in remission. I dropped meds 3 months into diagnosis (including the statins) while on LCHF, and I've been in the non-diabetic range since. My weightloss stagnated and that's when I switched to keto, losing more weight, and to my surprise, suffering from my rheumatism much less as a bonus. I also added intermittent fasting to the regime, which for me simply means skipping breakfast. ;) But all in all... I'm giving you a load of information when you're already struggling to get your head around things, so the most important thing for you to take away from this... Diabetes CAN be controlled! It doesn't have to control you. There's hope. You're not doomed to have complications and whatnot... It'll be okay.

Good luck,
Jo
 
@theresaw64

Hello Theresa and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
hi im theresa 53 and recently diagnosed with t2 and fm double whammy lol
i am just having a nose around here, so i thought i would introduce myself, looking forward to having chats and asking questions on here, not got my head around this at moment but i will,
so hi to all who read this xxx

Hi Theresa and welcome. I see you have been tagged in to Daisy's info and other forum members have offered lots of brilliant info too. It's a lot to take in when you are first diagnosed but it's all invaluable. So many of us on here came feeling upset and confused and found our way through the dark into the light. When you get a minute take a look at this link. So many of us took back control and many in a very short space of time. You will see a lot of encouraging stats in forum members' signatures also.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/
 
morning every one
thank you so much for all your reply's and advice, i have been looking at the low carb diet and it looks like the best option for me, i have kicked it off this morning with 2 x eggs scrambled with 2 x mushrooms and really enjoyed it, i will miss my fruit quite a lot but i never realised fruit was quite so high in carbs, i have to admit i have never look at carbs b4 but i have just gone through my cupboards and looked at the carbs in things and i feel like i am learning already, the thing is i only like canned fish lol pilchards tuna and salmon i am going to see if these are suitable, but thank you all for such great advise.
 
Morning! I second everyone's advice to get a blood glucose meter so you can see what is going on. I'm not on meds, just diet control alone, so hopefully someone on Metformin will be able to help there with more tailored advice if it's needed.

I've been quite thrilled that my breakfasts are now so much bigger looking than a bowl of cereal (when I am motivated to cook at least!). It's all a big learning curve, but it does help so much so stick with it.

(From one black and white cat to another!)
 
Don't only look at carbs. Look at the ingredients on packets for sugars in their various guises, glucose anything with an ose.

I miss my morning orange or pineapple juice.
 
Morning! I second everyone's advice to get a blood glucose meter so you can see what is going on. I'm not on meds, just diet control alone, so hopefully someone on Metformin will be able to help there with more tailored advice if it's needed.

I've been quite thrilled that my breakfasts are now so much bigger looking than a bowl of cereal (when I am motivated to cook at least!). It's all a big learning curve, but it does help so much so stick with it.

(From one black and white cat to another!)
wow what a lovely looking cat looks mainecoon, my bella is part mainecoon but she is only 9 mths old at moment, thank you for replying to my post people have been lovely on here, so much info i am reading one thing at a time thats why i started on the low carbs info first, looking forward to getting know you all, but still in the processing phase at moment i dont even know my sugar levels at the mo, so going to invest in a blood testing machine and get a printout from my drs of my test results.
 
morning every one
thank you so much for all your reply's and advice, i have been looking at the low carb diet and it looks like the best option for me, i have kicked it off this morning with 2 x eggs scrambled with 2 x mushrooms and really enjoyed it, i will miss my fruit quite a lot but i never realised fruit was quite so high in carbs, i have to admit i have never look at carbs b4 but i have just gone through my cupboards and looked at the carbs in things and i feel like i am learning already, the thing is i only like canned fish lol pilchards tuna and salmon i am going to see if these are suitable, but thank you all for such great advise.
The good news; canned is fine! I have canned tuna (in sunflower oil, better for you than water) with my salad something like 3 or 4 days a week, and can indeed highly recommend it. Plus, canned salmon or trout is much more affordable than fillets.

The other good news; you're off to a great start! :) Yay, you!
 
The good news; canned is fine! I have canned tuna (in sunflower oil, better for you than water) with my salad something like 3 or 4 days a week, and can indeed highly recommend it. Plus, canned salmon or trout is much more affordable than fillets.

The other good news; you're off to a great start! :) Yay, you!
thank you so much, i have just had a tuna salad it was yum i forgot how nice this was, i only have tuna in water at mo so will use that up and get the sunflower one next time,i did put mayo on it tho lol but i am surprised how full up i feel, i also has a instant coffee with cream and no sugar that was a treat lol x
 
Don't only look at carbs. Look at the ingredients on packets for sugars in their various guises, glucose anything with an ose.

I miss my morning orange or pineapple juice.

Carbs are starches and sugars, all enter the bloodstream as simple sugars which a diabetic has trouble in dealing with. Taking a relaxed attitude to foods without 'oses' would not help with making progress towards normal readings.
 
thank you so much, i have just had a tuna salad it was yum i forgot how nice this was, i only have tuna in water at mo so will use that up and get the sunflower one next time,i did put mayo on it tho lol but i am surprised how full up i feel, i also has a instant coffee with cream and no sugar that was a treat lol x
Isn't it nice when a diet consists of things you love? Mayo's good, but do check the list on the back; for some reason, *some* manufacturers put sugar in there. (Beats me why). Though one's not likely to consume 100 grams of it, so you're probably good, no worries. Just something to check next time you do groceries. I'm semi-fasting till dinner today, only had some nuts, and now you're making me hungry, haha. Oh, if you miss fruit, try having a few berries with double cream. There's sugar in the strawberries, black- or blueberries (or whatever berry tickles your fancy), but the fat in the cream will probably be enough to prevent a sugar spike. Sweeten with stevia if you want it sweeter. Don't go overboard with the berries,(50 grams or something) just enough to enjoy the treat/dessert. ;)
 
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