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Hi everyone, just been diagnosed as type two and feeling a bit overwhelmed by it all . I have fibromyalgia too so I spend a lot of time in bed on morphine which leads to comfort eating etc etc , I also will be having all my teeth removed when I finally get a date. I’m really struggling with what to eat, I have no teeth to bite with and my back teeth have all been broken so I can’t chew on anything so I need ideas for soft foods to eat, I would appreciate any tips available.
 

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Coconut porridge. The recipe is on the Dietdoctor website.

Welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.
Sorry to hear about your dental problems, it must make life quite difficult.
 
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P.S. There is a version of cheese and broccoli soup, it is very filling and easy to make, on a YouTube channel called 'HeadbangersKitchen'. You could adapt it to your own needs.
 

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I seem to be spending half my life at my dentist's lately, so I do so sympathise. One of my great favourites is scrambled eggs. I like to cook them in a really heavy pan, without any fat or milk. That way the flavour is delicious. Now I am eating very few carbs I allow myself 3 eggs, which feels rather sinful and luxurious. I am also a great fan of this imitation pasta, which slips down easily: https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/eat-water-slim-pasta-fettucini-60007573?skuid=007573
I add lots of grated cheese. Full fat cheese such as Cheddar is lowest in carbs, as is full fat Greek yoghurt. You might like to add small portion of berries or rhubarb, which are the lowest carb fruits. Oh dear, it's bedtime and I'm making myself hungry! Last thought for now: mushy avocado.
 

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@Clairebear2005

Hello Clairebear and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Sorry to hear about your struggles.
Here’s the recipe for the low carb coconut porridge that @Guzzler mentions. I absolutely love it and have it everyday for breakfast with strawberries and cream :hungry:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/keto-coconut-porridge
Hey! This was awesome! I made it this morning and ate it with my eldest - we both loved it <3 Thanks for the tip!

P.s. I added a half banana to each serving for a touch of sweetness.
 
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Not too worried. My average bg is at 124mg/dl so I think I'll be good until my doc appt on Wednesday... ;)
 

Alexandra100

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Not too worried. My average bg is at 124mg/dl so I think I'll be good until my doc appt on Wednesday... ;)
Indeed! Sorry, inappropriate reply on my part. I got carried away by the contrast between the virtuous low carb pudding and the wickedly high carb banana. But of course banana + porridge or muesli would have been a whole lot higher / wickeder!
 
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Indeed! Sorry, inappropriate reply on my part. I got carried away by the contrast between the virtuous low carb pudding and the wickedly high carb banana. But of course banana + porridge or muesli would have been a whole lot higher / wickeder!

Well, if I go too low carb with the amount of activity I have, I end up hypo. Plus a half banana is only on carb-unit (15gm) which is still pretty good, I'd say. Trying to maintain some balance here while this is still so new to me - been just 2 weeks since diagnosis.
 

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Well, if I go too low carb with the amount of activity I have, I end up hypo. Plus a half banana is only on carb-unit (15gm) which is still pretty good, I'd say. Trying to maintain some balance here while this is still so new to me - been just 2 weeks since diagnosis.
As you are not 'fat adapted' and can use insulin injections to counter the effects of eating carbs then you are perfectly 'safe' not eating low carb - but for type twos - particularly those without any medication, the idea of adding in banana to make something taste sweet just doesn't compute.
My entire day's carbs is a maximum of 40 gm, at the moment in order to get normal numbers and some fat loss. I find that ketones are a far better source of energy than carbs, and it gets better over time - I went to the Winchester Folk festival last Saturday with my morris side and managed far better than one year ago, which was six months after diagnosis.
 

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I find that ketones are a far better source of energy than carbs, and it gets better over time - I went to the Winchester Folk festival last Saturday with my morris side and managed far better than one year ago, which was six months after diagnosis.
I'm reassured to read this, as my energy levels and endurance capacity are not yet at all what they should be.
 
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As you are not 'fat adapted' and can use insulin injections to counter the effects of eating carbs then you are perfectly 'safe' not eating low carb - but for type twos - particularly those without any medication, the idea of adding in banana to make something taste sweet just doesn't compute.
My entire day's carbs is a maximum of 40 gm, at the moment in order to get normal numbers and some fat loss. I find that ketones are a far better source of energy than carbs, and it gets better over time - I went to the Winchester Folk festival last Saturday with my morris side and managed far better than one year ago, which was six months after diagnosis.

I just don't like the idea of eating something that my body obviously has difficulty with and then having to counteract that with insulin. Like I said, it's still early days with this, but so far going lchf has been really great. I inject less insulin this way. Eating 'normally' just seems so counterproductive? I have a few extra kilos to lose anyway, so that's working out well so far too... My energy is way up compared to pre-diagnosis and I'm really enjoying that freedom.
 

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I just don't like the idea of eating something that my body obviously has difficulty with and then having to counteract that with insulin.
Your problem is that your body isn't producing insulin, so all the injections do is replace what you should be producing naturally. You're not insulin resistant or carbohydrate intolerant. By all means go low carb if you like, but realise that T1 is not the same as T2 and your reasons for going low carb are different...
 
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Your problem is that your body isn't producing insulin, so all the injections do is replace what you should be producing naturally. You're not insulin resistant or carbohydrate intolerant. By all means go low carb if you like, but realise that T1 is not the same as T2 and your reasons for going low carb are different...
Actually, T1 and T2 are exact opposite. T1 is not enough insulin and T2 is too much insulin. However, from what I've read I think there's plenty that speaks for a low carb diet for T1 patients. If I can reduce the amount of insulin I inject by eating fewer carbohydrates, I can reduce the chance of developing insulin resistance (ie T2) later in life. For me personally, I've also coincidentally used low carb intermittently for years to stop my symptoms of colitis.
 
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Jo Bodensee

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Hi everyone, just been diagnosed as type two and feeling a bit overwhelmed by it all . I have fibromyalgia too so I spend a lot of time in bed on morphine which leads to comfort eating etc etc , I also will be having all my teeth removed when I finally get a date. I’m really struggling with what to eat, I have no teeth to bite with and my back teeth have all been broken so I can’t chew on anything so I need ideas for soft foods to eat, I would appreciate any tips available.
Hi Clairebear! I just wanted to say that I am sorry to hear about your plight. I have heard that fibromyalgia reacts well to low-inflammation foods (basically stay away from grains and refined sugars). Maybe that's a direction you could look into? I hope you find a solution soon and that you begin to feel better.
 
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Thankyou jo, I’ve been doing really well so far this week with my blood sugars, I started a weekly injection called Trulicity which slows down the digestion process, I’ve also been eating a healthy low carb diet, it’s a bit tricky as I have no teeth to bite ot chew with until they do my operation but so far I’ve been averaging 10.8 in the morning so heading in the right direction, so glad I joined this form, learnt so much .