Keep it up Fleegle you've got this.. I don't think your morning numbers and then lunch and dinner really show much apart from how cussedly awkward our bodies can be when they want! Although i'm thinking it might be that after an overnight fast your body is more prepared for the carb influx that the morning shake represents.. Especially if you usually have breakfast anyway.. I'll wait for what
@CherryAA has to say as she's coming up with some brilliant theories about High Insulin levels.
Ok , I'm done, I think I might be getting to the end of my incessant worrying about what is going on, bccause I've finally reconciled what I've been reading with a story that makes sense, from all the confusin competing data I get presented with at every turn.
Admittedly the blog ended up rather longer than I anticipated to finally get to my Newcastle Diet thought process. If anyone is interested in how I got there and has enough patience please take the time to read through my blog.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/a-unifying-theory-of-disease.1795/
the last l posting of that is this
Implications of the circulating insulin theory for the Newcastle Diet
The Newcastle diet suggests an 800 calorie a day diet eaten as three powdered shakes with some vegetables. It is higher carb. than an LCHF diet and users report higher blood glucose as a result. It is not known to what extent the actual shakes are replicating real foods in terms of nutrients or what the insulin response is to these shakes.
I think in anyone has the willpower to achieve it then that's superb and I Would not encourage anyone to stop trying based on anything I have to say. So total respect to all those trying.
I do however think that there may be a better way to get the result that might actually be easier to do, taste better and work faster.
That way would be ONE lovely LCHF meal per day of about 800 calories ( but the actual number will come out based on the foods chosen see below )
From the blog ( admittedly very long analysis of what is going on )
I now believe an optimum approach to achieve remission would be
Food
1) Approx 20-30g carbs to get the relevant nutrients = ie 80-120 calories
2) Approx 1g per fat free body weight of proteins = say 60- 90 g = 240-360 calories
This will give rise to whatever fats are included in the above proteins and the total calorie count to match
3) depending on the proteins chosen and how fatty they are - one table spoon of each of
olive oil (mono) , cod liver oil ( om 3) and a knob of butter. (sat ) and 10g macadamia nuts ( healthy om 6)
4) 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar (though probably other vinegars would work too ( from D Fung's obesity code) - vinegar blocks insulin release)
Choose nutrient dense foods with the least insulin responses this food list sets these out
https://optimisingnutrition.com/201...ood-sugar-regulation-and-nutritoinal-ketosis/
Time
Eat the entire lot at one meal per day . NO SNACKING not even a grape. drink only water or black coffee or tea
See this post for why NO SNACKING
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/why-cheating-matters.127127/#post-1573956
EXERCISE
Do 2 minutes High Intensity exercise on waking first thing in the morning, and after the meal as that wakes up insulin responses
"Curing" diabetes
Based on all the stuff above THAT should be the way to bring own circulating insulin quickly, break a diet logjam and " cure" diabetes.
I have no idea if I've got the willpower to do that - but I am going to try to get as close as I can for a while and see what happens.
I'm off for my black coffee now .....