Newly type 2 diagnosed and new to the forum

KateA

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Hi
I am newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and finding it a bit of an issue. So much information as well as being damned annoyed about it, annoyed with myself, my GP, the patronising practice nurse and the food industry. I am trying to be calm and smile while I sort out my diet and lifestyle. I have been prescribed metformin and not liking it. Numb fingers and feet, tingling scalp and horrible headaches.

I purchased a BS monitoring system which arrived today and it would appear my BS levels are down but I know I have to monitor it over time. However, either I am not doing it correctly or I have skin like a rhino, been struggling to get enough blood for the strip.

I have been vegetarian for most of my life and carbs, albeit complex carbs were my friends, I really need some help in finding a low carb healthy vegetarian regime. Looking forward to hearing some good advise from you all.
 

JTL

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Welcome to the forum rhino.
I can't help with the vegetarian stuff I'm afraid as it is beyond me why people don't eat other animals.
Some of them would eat you given the chance.
Lots of vegetarians on here doing well though so I'm sure one will elbow me out the way soon.
Meanwhile chuck that glass of wine down your throat and don't worry to much.
It does seem a lot to take in at first but stick with this place and I'm sure you'll discover that it isn't quite as daunting as it first appears.
Stick around and ask as many questions as you wish.
Might be a bit slow this late at night though.
 

KateA

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Welcome to the forum rhino.
I can't help with the vegetarian stuff I'm afraid as it is beyond me why people don't eat other animals.
Some of them would eat you given the chance.
Lots of vegetarians on here doing well though so I'm sure one will elbow me out the way soon.
Meanwhile chuck that glass of wine down your throat and don't worry to much.
It does seem a lot to take in at first but stick with this place and I'm sure you'll discover that it isn't quite as daunting as it first appears.
Stick around and ask as many questions as you wish.
Might be a bit slow this late at night though.

I am allowed wine? Flip, I thought I had to sign the pledge. Seriously, I have had one bottle of wine since Christmas and I am in danger of becoming very dull. Thanks for cheering me up and it's Mrs Rhino to you ;)
 

Mike d

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I purchased a BS monitoring system which arrived today and it would appear my BS levels are down but I know I have to monitor it over time.

.... and your numbers are? Usually a clue so can you advise?
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum Karen

Best wishes RRB :)
 
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Hi and welcome to the forum :) If you manage to remain calm and smiley, it will help with your bg levels. Stay well hydrated and wash your hands in warm water before testing to stimulate blood flow to your fingers.

My low carb vegetarian diet is an adapted version of this...

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Minus the meat and fish
Plus pulses in moderation (check your personal tolerance with a blood glucose meter)
Plus unbreaded/unbattered Quorn, TVP, tofu

Here are some members' recipes http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/vegetarian-vegan-low-carb-recipe-index.61859/

Wine and spirits are low carb, but are empty calories and will hinder weight loss if that is a goal. Good luck!
 

daisy1

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@KateA

Hello Kate and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help. Lots of answers already...



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Metformin doesn't usually cause problems other than bowel upset for some if it's the standard type. If you do have bowel issues that last do ask for the Slow Release (SR) version. Yes, alcohol is OK in sensible quantities but don't binge. Others will need to provide veggie diet advice. You do get used to the lancet setting needed to get enough blood. Do run your finger under a hot'ish tap for a minute or two to help. Come back with more questions.
 

KateA

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Meat and now sugar and carbs!!!
Thanks for the replies, I am slowly getting my act together and will post my numbers and lots of questions in due course.
 

sanguine

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Hi Kate, welcome :)
 

KateA

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Meat and now sugar and carbs!!!
My HbA1c was 72, not sure if that is good, bad or indifferent. I am presuming bad as that is when they diagnosed me. My individual meter tested BS levels have ranged from 4.5 to 9.3. I now realise that my wee jotter is insufficient to catalogue everything need to measure properly. Getting a new book today and ready to catalogue my life.

My burning questions today are:

What is a reasonable amount of carbs per day? I read here of people eating food that I thought would be banished for good. I know we all metabolise differently, I just think I would benefit from some rules. eg. a limit of carbs, drink in moderation, nah, unlikely to happen, so I am best to stop it completely. Ok I have limited will power!

The Newcastle diet, my immediate thoughts were stotties and Newcastle Broon! Alas no. The 'shake' element of this doesn't sound healthy and is not something I would eat. Are there any healthier alternatives? What about 5:2 or alternate fasting type regimes? I do need to shift some weight too.

These forums are fantastic for information and support, thank you to everyone who has offered advice and help. Inn turn, one day I hope to be able to do the same for someone else.
 

sanguine

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Hi Kate

72 isn't that bad, certainly retrievable without too much medication. Diabetic range is 48 up, prediabetic is 42-47, and 'normal' 41 and below.

As for carb intake, many go for 50g or less, but you may want to approach that more gradually. Have a look at the first item linked in my sig below.