Now the X-PERT advice is low carb, high fat

[Paul59]

This was posted on another thread & is very interesting about fat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b054t9hn

 

[Ian DP]

The LCHF diet for diabetics does not mean "Adkins" Diet (thank goodness). Fat in the diet does not cause high cholesterol, carbs do.

A lot of us on LcHf are finding this is not quite true.... Our total cholesterol often does rise, but much more importantly it is our good cholesterol HDL that rises and this gives us a much improved ratio and trigs which is now regarded much more import than overall cholesterol levels.

My total is higher than a year ago, before I was LcHf but my ratio is much, much better

 

[Deakint]

Hi All - please click onto the link to see the presentation that I delivered to dietitians at the Diabetes UK Conference last week. Best wishes, Trudi http://www.xperthealth.org.uk/Porta... evidence_Diabetes UK 2015_reduced memory.pdf

 

[CollieBoy]

Thanks Trudi
Will try to pass this around.
P.S.
Monday night was a great end to a fun course.

 

[DeejayR]

Hi All - please click onto the link to see the presentation that I delivered to dietitians at the Diabetes UK Conference last week. Best wishes, Trudi http://www.xperthealth.org.uk/Portals/0/Downloads/High fat, low carb diets and the evidence_Diabetes UK 2015_reduced memory.pdf

Thanks for that. I look forward to a good read later on.

 

[zand]

Thank you Trudi

 

[donnellysdogs]

It is hard to get the local NHS clinicians to even consider Trudi's presentation....

Some GP Practices will only allow posters or leaflets from DUK so until the larger advisory companies and the likes of IDDT etc start to listen it is going to be an uphill struggle for Trudi.

Doesn't matter what Trudi or Dr Unwins' etc have researched or presented unless Diabetes.org .uk and others start to listen then Trudi (and us) are going to find the same old carb, carb, carb advice is given.

 

[zand]

It is hard to get the local NHS clinicians to even consider Trudi's presentation....

Some GP Practices will only allow posters or leaflets from DUK so until the larger advisory companies and the likes of IDDT etc start to listen it is going to be an uphill struggle for Trudi.

Doesn't matter what Trudi or Dr Unwins' etc have researched or presented unless Diabetes.org .uk and others start to listen then Trudi (and us) are going to find the same old carb, carb, carb advice is given.

So what can we do to help? Can we start an e petition? How can we help Trudi to help us and others? Can we petition DUK? How do we shout loud enough so that we are heard?

 

[donnellysdogs]

So what can we do to help? Can we start an e petition? How can we help Trudi to help us and others? Can we petition DUK? How do we shout loud enough so that we are heard?

Wish I knew @zand.. Have sent you details of negativity that I can't publish on the worldwide web.

I'm a bit out of ideas at the moment. I have told Trudi about the negativity. I do know 100% that unless NHS england revises guidelines then it is going to be a huge climb for Trudi...don't know how on earth NHS England can be influenced....

 

[sanguine]

Trudi, is there a video of your presentation so we get to hear what you say over each slide?

 

[sanguine]

My DN yesterday said to me (unofficially of course) that she thought the Eatwell Plate (and much else of Government and charity-backed material) was bonkers for diabetics. Would you give a Snickers bar to someone with a nut allergy etc.

I've offered to do a presentation to my practice on my story. If we all did that then it adds to the drip-feed and maybe some GPs might start making representations to NICE etc. Even if only those members of NICE not in hock to BigPharma took notice ...

 

[desidiabulum]

So what can we do to help? Can we start an e petition? How can we help Trudi to help us and others? Can we petition DUK? How do we shout loud enough so that we are heard?

Hi zand and others -- just wanted to reassure you that a number of us are lobbying DUK in different ways. Getting DUK to change its dietary message is the diabetic holy grail, and we must all keep at it..

 

[donnellysdogs]

My DN yesterday said to me (unofficially of course) that she thought the Eatwell Plate (and much else of Government and charity-backed material) was bonkers for diabetics. Would you give a Snickers bar to someone with a nut allergy etc.

I've offered to do a presentation to my practice on my story. If we all did that then it adds to the drip-feed and maybe some GPs might start making representations to NICE etc. Even if only those members of NICE not in hock to BigPharma took notice ...

Will PM you "negativity" . Cannot worldwide publish....

 

[donnellysdogs]

Just been thinking... Trudi has gone out on a limb here to be honest.

So what are DAFNE and DESMOND organisers doing to improve their courses and advice?
Who organises these courses.. We know Trudi does xpert ones.. But her nutritionalisrs are really going to be up agaist a battle with NHS dietitians and clinicians that won't even open the doors or their ears to listening.

Who runs DAPHNE and DESMOND courses?

 

[IanD]

I propose to start a petition to DUK as suggested.
Petitions to the government have been dismissed by "experts"

Page 2 of Trudi's presentation
Confused? Has the X-PERT Programme become low carb? X-PERT Health is a charity with a mission to provide accurate and up-to-date information for the prevention and treatment of diabetes. Version 12.1 of the manual (Sept 2014) acknowledges the latest evidence for a very low carb/high fat lifestyle, it doesn’t prescribe it. The X-PERT Programme is based on the empowerment approach with informed decisions. If patients wish to adopt a low carb/high fat lifestyle, it is another option for them to lose weight and improve glycaemic control. Thus, the X-PERT Diabetes Programme continues the same but with less emphasis on low fat and supporting participants with trying different dietary approaches.

 

[donnellysdogs]

I propose to start a petition to DUK as suggested.
Petitions to the government have been dismissed by "experts"

Up for that.. How?

 

[donnellysdogs]

But who is the boss of desmond and dafne courses

 

[IanD]

I have created the poll & deleted the one that started prematurely.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Still frustrating when reading this page on. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/nhs-diet-advice.html

 

[Spiker]

DAFNE is run by a secretive German cabal, operating out of an underground volcano base in the Baltic Sea. Basically like SPECTRE in James Bond.