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Where is the NOT LIKE button ? ?Still frustrating when reading this page on. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/nhs-diet-advice.html
Where is the NOT LIKE button ? ?Still frustrating when reading this page on. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/nhs-diet-advice.html
Still frustrating when reading this page on. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/nhs-diet-advice.html
The truth is even more frightening. DAFNE in the UK is licensed from its German originators and cannot be modified in any way. This is a condition of the licence, but also a decision by NICE. Because if they changed anything at all about DAFNE, that would invalidate the scientific evidence base for the positive effects of DAFNE on diabetes outcomes and endpoints.
So, wer spricht Deutsch?
Still frustrating when reading this page on. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/nhs-diet-advice.html
At the top of this it says "The NHS (and Diabetes UK) recommend a healthy, balanced diet that is low in fat, sugar and salt and contain a high level of fresh fruit and vegetables", followed by eat starchy carbs yadda yadda ...
How important are the actual members of this site? I for one would vote to dissociate from any endorsement of NHS diet advice.
Sorry Rod - the presentations at Diabetes UK are not recorded. If you have any questions about the slides do not hesitate to contact me. I do have some mega deadlines over the next couple of weeks but I will try and get back to you as soon as possible.Trudi, is there a video of your presentation so we get to hear what you say over each slide?
Just been thinking... Trudi has gone out on a limb here to be honest.
So what are DAFNE and DESMOND organisers doing to improve their courses and advice?
Who organises these courses.. We know Trudi does xpert ones.. But her nutritionalisrs are really going to be up agaist a battle with NHS dietitians and clinicians that won't even open the doors or their ears to listening.
Who runs DAPHNE and DESMOND courses?
The truth is even more frightening. DAFNE in the UK is licensed from its German originators and cannot be modified in any way. This is a condition of the licence, but also a decision by NICE. Because if they changed anything at all about DAFNE, that would invalidate the scientific evidence base for the positive effects of DAFNE on diabetes outcomes and endpoints.
So, wer spricht Deutsch?
I think a local library of books for loan such as these plus the X-pert manuals would be a great resource (& cost effective)Basically someone will need to fund new studies of a new type of structured education programme and produce new evidence before NICE will approve it.
And it's a joke anyway because such a small number go through DAFNE each year because of the high cost of delivery.
They should give every newly diagnosed diabetic a few books. Think Like a Pancreas, Diabetes Solution (maybe), Diabetes 101. It would cost peanuts compared to DAFNE. Probably about the same cost as an hour with a dietician. If that.
Heaven forbid. We wouldn't want that now, would we? Losing control of the condemned.....Only prob is the patients would start asking awkward questions