Hi listlad I know about the hot rocks projects.Indeed they are. There’s is a lot of geothermal work going on in the U.K. and Europe right now. It isn’t a complete solution but one of a number of them.
A fine point Lucy, but would be lost on the family of a human dying of CJD.no, feeding cows dead cows cause CJD.
It won't matter Winnie if the planet dies first!
It won't matter Winnie if the planet dies first!
i thought @Winnie53 made a decent point.
but i am as guilty of that as anyone, but her point was valid.
AND for those who believe that's the case.
how many of the luvvies and Excitables will be willingly giving up those perks they have.?
Endless flights around the world..(all Very important and neccessary for them..just not for us peasants, i'd wager)
(smacks of the EU summits where i believe they had a 15/16 course dinner in brazil ? to discuss world hunger
Non of that walking in someones else's shoes and leading by example there, me thinks
and of course a starbucks on every corner for that all important flat white /latte/etc..all sourced locally, of course.
as littte john would have said.."you couldn't make it up."
And maybe we should ...once all flight except the most necessary..(wars, aid, superstars )
we should then consider HOW will we survive ?
so lets start supplying the goods from nearby rather then flying stuff half way around the world.
Not going to happen.
So lets be sensible.
Google hot rocks Cornwall. There are others.I know the National Trust has small projects going on. Do you know of any large scale UK ones though? Last I heard Blackpool had put a stop to their project. The British Geological Survey says plenty of potential.
So still exploratory, not yet producing.Google hot rocks Cornwall. There are others.
I agree with you Winnie, I was making an ironic joke.I absolutely support efforts to address climate change. I don't support making changes to the diet that will make our diabetes worse, not better.
Again, in the US, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in 2015, 43% of adults age 18 or older, have pre-diabetes or diabetes. I've since heard numerous experts report this year it's now 52%, but I don't know the original source of that information. If true, that's 1 out of 2 adults.
We need to find a way to address both diabetes and climate change.
Additionally, we need the animals, not just to feed us but to rebuild the soil.
I'm opposed to CAFO's, and eat only meat from animals that have been fed and raised humanely. I rarely eat out now because restaurants typically serve meat from animals raised in CAFO's, that is not as healthy as meat from animals raised traditionally on their natural diet, and, restaurants also use omega-6, industrial seed oils that make me ill.
I'm battling my fourth flare of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) right now, I believe because of the seed oils my local food co-op uses in many of their chicken recipes, also on their roast vegetables, for reasons I don't understand. Since I stopped eating a couple of times a week at our food co-op's hot bar, my flare seems to be remitting. I'm almost back into remission.
Diabetes is on the increase. Autoimmune disease is on the increase.
I don't know what percentage of diabetics also have autoimmune disease, but I have both. Animal protein is the best protein for me, but only humanely raised meat. I do not tolerate well plant based proteins: legumes, beans, and grains.
Those with diabetes and chronic kidney disease don't tolerate animal or plant based proteins well, and need to take essential amino acid supplements that are very expensive.
Save the planet? Yes. Slowly kill off a significant percentage of the population? No.
Ground source heat pumps, which use heating/cooling just below the surface rather than the deep bores required for geothermal energy, save energy rather than generate it but are in use now.Google hot rocks Cornwall. There are others.
I wonder how she got to Plymouth to embark as well...I bet she didn't walk...Just doing 1 transatlantic flight apparently means you'd need to go vegan for 5 years to compensate (quite a lot of cow farts/burps I think).
Also if Greta Thunberg is sailing her solar powered ship of martyrdom one way across the Atlantic how will the fresh crew get to Europe to sail it back?
Logically the situation shows that we should still be living like our ancestors did in medieval times. They understood farming to a high degree, leaving fields fallow and rotating crops. Although life expectancy was barely half what it is now, unemployment was not something common. The community all worked together. If we go further with turning over to robots, we shall see more unemployment, more substance abuse and more depression. As @zand points out, we could only make any difference if the rest of the planet follows suit. Dream on!Why choose? Stop wasting food, since 30% of the food produced is wasted. Wasted food rots causing more global warming. Nothing to do with animals, we don't need to all go veggie, just stop the waste.
I have already said stop producing so many goods that we just don't need. So much energy is wasted. What I would like to happen never will happen because those in power don't care enough to do it. Or they care too much about wealth to do it. I would love to see all unnecessary flights stop. I would gladly forego my holidays if everyone else did too. Stop expecting a growth in the economy. Go for decline and less production, less wasting of the earth's resources. Make do and mend. Stop throwing things out because we want new. Painful, hard, but do we want to save the planet or not? If it's that important to halt global warming (and it is) then stop wasting fuel (whether fossil fuels or not) on unnecessary things. Yes renewable energy is a good way to go, but what we really need is to be able to store electricity more effectively. Why go to the moon and explore the rest of the solar system when what we really need is to store energy here. We are never going to get to live on another planet, we won't be around for long enough, so why bother exploring there?
Planting trees is a great idea, but not at the cost of good farmland. Have smaller fields like in the 1950s and 60s with trees around the edges. Small woods in the right areas.
Why would anyone think it was a good idea to kill off livestock when there's so much else we could do? It doesn't make any sense. Unless as @1spuds and @mr_cat have said, the real agenda is killing off humans...
I am all for averting climate change, but putting all our efforts into some wacky scheme to stop people eating meat is not going to avert climate change.
So where does the protein in say, beans come from?The hydrogen goes and combines with the carbon dioxide in the air and produces carbohydrate in plants. Without animal life we cannot generally produce protein to eat from carbohydrate.
“Drilling starts for 'hot rocks' power in Cornwall. Drilling work is beginning at what may become the first deep geothermal power plant in the UK. Two wells will be drilled 2.8 miles (4.5km) and 1.5 miles (2.5km) into granite near Redruth, Cornwall, where the temperature is up to 200C (390F)”So still exploratory, not yet producing.