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Progressive T2D and Brain Function Decline

Oh my God! Stop with these scaremongering reports.
 
Oldvatr said:
I have seen some recent discussions on Alzheimers being considered another form of diabetes/ Not sure if anything was discovered either way.

Found this but not read it yet.
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/researchers-link-alzheimers-gene-to-type-iii-diabetes/

Got to save my dinner from the grill before it flagrates itself.
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I have heard that myself!
in fact it doesn't surprise me and I think @Brunneria would agree with me!
The main reason I say this, is because of my experience with brain function.
Before diagnosis of RH, I have lost so many memories and it was all down to fluctuations of blood glucose levels. Also high circulating insulin levels, hyperinsulinimia, insulin red and certain other brain function related to high and low blood glucose levels.
The high rate of diabetes has to relate to the high rate of Alzheimer's and dementia. My family had suffered from both in old age.
My condition if not in control, will eventually lead to type two diabetes, lack of glucose to brain during hypoglycaemia is dangerous, but too much glucose and hyperinsulinimia for a long period has dramatic effects on your health!
 
Well my brain function certainly improved once I started low carbing. For a while pre T2 diagnosis I'd suffered with a serious case of zombie brain fog due to a recent and (unwanted) high carb diet, and as soon as I dropped the carbs down again I got my brain back - it much prefers to run on ketones than on glucose... It was quite enlightening when I discovered this relationship, and i believe my T2 diagnosis more or less saved my sanity.
 
Annio said:
Oh my God! Stop with these scaremongering reports.
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This site is dedicated to educate and discuss alternative methods and dietary advice for certain conditions.
The knowledge gleaned from this type of research has shown that a low carb diet has helped Alzheimer's patients greatly.
I have a very rare condition and without this knowledge, I would be in a continuous state of ill health!
please don't criticise, we need to know!
 
Annio said:
Oh my God! Stop with these scaremongering reports.
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Something I learned early on in my T2 journey was that brains could become insulin resistant as well as bodies, and I think it 's vital that we are aware of any such issues.

ETA : The possible link between T2 & Alzheimers is not actually all that new - I've seen discussions via Google for a while.
 
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Annio said:
Oh my God! Stop with these scaremongering reports.
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Sorry but the Mayo Clinic used to be the centre of the Diabetes universe in regard to research and knowledge, So this report seems to be genuine, and not scaremongering. I currently have two T2D friends who have recently been diagnosed with Vascular dementia so we need to be aware of this potential pathway. If you don't like what I post here, then put me on Ignore. Diabetes is not benign or a walk in the park. We need to control our sugars or else one of the many bogeymen connected to it will come to haunt us.
 
On the positive side, if you have a parent who had T2 and then vascular dementia, as my partner does , you can use this knowledge to perhaps avoid/mitigate the T2 and hence possibly avoid/mitigate the dementia.
 
EllieM said:
On the positive side, if you have a parent who had T2 and then vascular dementia, as my partner does , you can use this knowledge to perhaps avoid/mitigate the T2 and hence possibly avoid/mitigate the dementia.
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ketones and possibly supplements like nmn may help ...
 
Having watch my mum slide into senile dementia/Alzheimer's I take much more notice of posts like this.

Just like I did when I discovered I had type two and the effects that could potentially bring .

Scare mongering ?
Forewarned is forearmed.

Can't avoid the possible perils on the road ahead if your not willing to listen & research the journeys pitfalls, imho

Just as I discovered, like many the effects carbs had/ have on my body.

It almost seems incredible anyone could possible think the brain, possibly our most wonderful & precious of organs, could avoid the risks of damage carbs can do to our bodies.

Being aware ....
Is what I found most informative from this forum,
When even medical professionals were telling me not to listen.

I personally proved them wrong, as have many who ignored their outdated dogmatic advice

As said, we don't have to listen, but we should at least explore the possibilities

After all, it's not what we are told that matters to each of us,
It's what we DO with that information that's the important part .
 
I am someone who appreciates the expertise we have on this forum. While I have a science degree I am not a scientist and appreciate others finding these reports and reviewing them. It's one of my 'boasts' when I talk about this forum that we have some real experts who can assess some reports.

I also don't consider it scaremongering. The world/internet is full of many reports suggestions etc about what constitutes a healthy diet and I have had to defend my keto diet to a few doctors. I know it works for my body for blood sugar levels and it makes sense to me that a diet high in protein and low in processed food is likely to have other benefits but I am always willing to hear about them. The more I have up my sleeve so to speak.

Anyway one of the benefits of the forum in my view is just this sort of information.

So thank you from me :)
 
Nicely said @VashtiB

No where near scientist level, but I too appreciate not only the links, but the informative discussions from many more able to disseminate the finding or to counter with their own source.

Interesting site @ianf0ster .
Thank you for posting.

Just gone back to re-read.
Then followed two links at bottom of page that caught my eye.

One regarding ketamin, for use under depression.

Article interested me, as at crash site,
being a non smoker or recreational drug user (not judging, just by way of explanation)

I was administered somewhere in the region of 200 mg of ketamin, if I read the ambulance reports right.which from what I have read is a rather large dose.:watching:

It was VERY disturbing, caused me SO many issues.

( A bad trip , I had it described as,
Which was one heck of an understatement , imho :wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::wideyed::wideyed:)

Sure it's at a lower level & given in a totally different setting , but it made me wonder if it could work. ?..mmhh

So the link was of interest to me.


And in that vein, I spotted another interesting link

Can't say I can prove or disprove any of it
(and why would I )
But at the time when I thought my world was Ending.

The fact I might be parted permanently from my wife was almost the hardest part.

Which gave me a new appreciation of just how special she is to me.

And as I know she can get stressed,
This little nugget is getting used whenever I can.... proven to work or not.:)

embraces combined with hand-holding, and embraces combined with affectionate communication can all reduce signs of stress in women.
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https://neurosciencenews.com/stress-hug-20605/

DCUK....Where every day's a Schoolday :happy:
 
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I have worked in care settings for 28 yrs, I've not seen a relation between Alzheimer's and T2 diabetes, through my observations.
In fact there are more people with Alzheimer's who do not have diabetes. People can live the most healthiest of life style, be highly educated and still develop the condition.
For me, they still do not know the reasons why, so like everything else, researchers are possibly trying to find a link, which may not be there.
If healthy people develop Alzheimer's. The most interesting factor would be WHY. Like as always, there are too many variables.
Since the 70's and 80's the population has been encouraged to change their eating habits, types of fats, grains eating less meat more veg and carbs and so on. This would make more interesting research I think Dr Aitkin had a very valid point about individual tolerance levels to carbs. Maybe it could also relate to brain function for those who do not develop diabetes as we all know about brain fog, if we have too much carbs, maybe those without diabetes also exposed to brain fog. Scientist have found build up of protein in the brain. My question would be why would this be, It cannot be because of too much meat consumption from meat and two veg era, because I would have thought there would be more people with Alzheimer's back then rather than less. However, I could be wrong.
Its possibly be that it is not one thing, which causes Alzheimer's but multiple factors
 
pixie1 said:
I have worked in care settings for 28 yrs, I've not seen a relation between Alzheimer's and T2 diabetes, through my observations.
In fact there are more people with Alzheimer's who do not have diabetes. People can live the most healthiest of life style, be highly educated and still develop the condition.
For me, they still do not know the reasons why, so like everything else, researchers are possibly trying to find a link, which may not be there.
If healthy people develop Alzheimer's. The most interesting factor would be WHY. Like as always, there are too many variables.
Since the 70's and 80's the population has been encouraged to change their eating habits, types of fats, grains eating less meat more veg and carbs and so on. This would make more interesting research I think Dr Aitkin had a very valid point about individual tolerance levels to carbs. Maybe it could also relate to brain function for those who do not develop diabetes as we all know about brain fog, if we have too much carbs, maybe those without diabetes also exposed to brain fog. Scientist have found build up of protein in the brain. My question would be why would this be, It cannot be because of too much meat consumption from meat and two veg era, because I would have thought there would be more people with Alzheimer's back then rather than less. However, I could be wrong.
Its possibly be that it is not one thing, which causes Alzheimer's but multiple factors
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This is what the Alzheimers soc says
https://www.alz.org/media/Documents/alzheimers-dementia-diabetes-cognitive-decline-ts.pdf
Dated Nov 2021, so reasonably up to date.
 
The research is for those with diabetes. There are just as many people who have Alzheimer's who do not have diabetes, that's the crux of the matter.
My question is: for those who already lead a healthy life style, eat a' healthy diet', highly educated prevent Alzheimer's occurring. Unfortunately it does not recognise boundaries.
 
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There are so many other factors. The generations now suffering from cognitive decline/Alzheimers are generations that smoked, took recreational drugs, worked with asbestos, solvents, other chemicals that wouldn't be allowed now, ate and drank foodstuffs that were sometimes adulterated with other substances, were exposed to smog, methane and other dodgy gases from leaky pipes, lead pipes, lead paint, DDT, dreadful dentistry with mercury/amalgam fillings, so on and so forth. Whatever we read now written by young journalists and researchers with sentimental ideas of the good old days - I was there and it wasn't so.
 
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