lucylocket61 said:And thats what this thread is about. Making someone aware of the risks, and informing them of how to reduce their risk.
Not downplaying or ignoring the risk and giving advice which will make the diabetes worse.
lucylocket61 said:Re: The Obesity and Self-Blaming.
I became overweight because i was pre-diabetic, then type 2. I have been told this by both my nurse and my doctor. It is a symptom, not a cause.
If it was the cause then all those people we see on TV who are super-sized would be diabetic. Most of them arent.
I was actually eating less before I was diagnosed, but gaining weight very quickly and tired all the time. Since diagnosis I have been eating more (more calories, I mean) , but different foods (fewer carbs, more protein and fats) and I have lost 27 lbs so far (12 weeks) and have loads more energy.
So, for me, I wish we could move on from blaming the obese for their condition. My neighbour down the road is stick thin and type 2 .
In fact, I wish we would stop blaming the patients at all. If, as is happening, they are being told to eat more carbs, then getting fatter and sicker is not their fault.
And diabetes is a sort of malnutrition. Your body grabs all the carbs and stores them before they can be used. So you crave carbs and are tired so dont exercise. Its a vicious circle. Like having your wages put into a savings account you can get hold of, then having no money to buy anything you need.
Then getting blamed for not paying your bills.
Sid Bonkers said:So what part of the advice I was given was incorrect?
Sid Bonkers said:At that meeting after inspecting my food diary she told me that "low carb was the way to go".
anna29 said:To remain neutral is their safest option or keep safe on the approved medical and clinical guidelines
that they are trained up with .
Anna.
borofergie said:anna29 said:To remain neutral is their safest option or keep safe on the approved medical and clinical guidelines
that they are trained up with .
Anna.
That's a pretty sad situation isn't it? Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath:
"I will apply dietic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice."
We seem to have traded "ability and judgment" with "medical and clinical guidelines".
However, he can't suggest a LC or ULC to patients, we have to find that out ourselves. I found that so sad!
The correlation to obesity is well known
Scardoc said:Quick apology to anyone taking offense at my earlier post. I will quickly point out that I did not state, in any way shape or form, that ALL T2 diabetes is self-inflicted and would never do so.
The correlation to obesity is well known and I passionately believe that this country is slowly killing itself through poor lifestyle choices and that each and every child, being easy targets at school, should be educated from an early age. As adults we should know better and take better care of ourselves before a HCP tells us to. This is not restricted to diabetes of course so is perhaps for another forum.
lucylocket61 said:Obesity is a symptom of the onset of Diabetes in those who are pre-disposed to it. The current dietary advice to the general public to have a high carb intake is triggering that pre-disposition.
Artichoke said:The slightly changed guidelines from the NHS are probably only echoing those of the American Diabetes Association which has endorsed low carb for short term weight-loss purposes.
How many of us will admit to liking being low carb heretics ?
Artichoke said:The slightly changed guidelines from the NHS are probably only echoing those of the American Diabetes Association which has endorsed low carb for short term weight-loss purposes.
How many of us will admit to liking being low carb heretics ?
phoenix said:Unbeliever:
Bedtime reading:I should very much lie to read he full ext of the excellent NAO 's report. The detail migh acually nit have been as suitable for their purposes as tthe headline.
http://www.nao.org.uk/publications/1213 ... vices.aspx
and DUKS report
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Re ... n-2012.pdf
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