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IanD said:DUK were in the process of ruining my life, when I came across this forum.
If that's the opening draft for your discussion on Tuesday then I'm definitely coming to watch..
IanD said:DUK were in the process of ruining my life, when I came across this forum.
swimmer2 said:IanD said:DUK were in the process of ruining my life, when I came across this forum.
If that's the opening draft for your discussion on Tuesday then I'm definitely coming to watch..
IanD said:xyzzy said:Ian think the think the doc is an improvement but like others are saying it needs further discussion from the membership. It should be as inclusive as possible or else it will just cause friction.
I expect a lot of further discussion - but I am seeing a DUK rep on Tuesday at the Hounslow meeting. We have to start somewhere, & with any document, it is best for someone to put forward a draft for discussion. Friction is not intended, but wedo need to get the low/reduced/controlled carb approach across. DUK were in the process of ruining my life, when I came across this forum.
xyzzy said:What still concerns me most is the issue of T1 / T2 separation. The need to maybe have slightly different info for T1 / T2 is something that I hope the proposed committee can address sensibly and rationally. Sorry T1.5's you have just as much say of course!
Patch said:I've missed this thread, and don't really know what's been discussed. (I can't get on teh forum for as olong as I'd like to, and I certainly can't read 16 pages of posst!)
What is going on here? Anything I should be aware of/involved in???
noblehead said:Patch said:I've missed this thread, and don't really know what's been discussed. (I can't get on teh forum for as olong as I'd like to, and I certainly can't read 16 pages of posst!)
What is going on here? Anything I should be aware of/involved in???
Members are wanting to set the ball in motion to campaign to have the Government/NHS/DUK advice changed to emphasise the importance of carb control.
Unbeliever said:That was certainluy the original concept Nigel. Not sure that it is still the main focus.
xyzzy said:Another useful and new bit of evidence to strengthen any low carb message for T1's you may wish to consider.
http://www.dmsjournal.com/content/pdf/1758-5996-4-23.pdf
From the report:
There is no evidence for the use of the widely recommended high-carbohydrate, low-fat diet
in type 1 diabetes.
There is no evidence that animal fat in the food should cause cardiovascular disease [13–15].
There is no evidence that protein should cause kidney disease [16]; on the contrary, hyperglycemia gave a 3.5 times higher incidence of albuminuria in DCCT, not protein [1].
There is, however, strong evidence for the aggressive development of damages in all organs in poorly regulated type 1 diabetes [1].
The physician and the individual must therefore together explore the tools and methods that give best result, for instance type of insulin, insulin pens, insulin pump etc. and diet. The restricted carbohydrate dietary approach is directly aimed at lowering of HbA1c, not at avoiding fat and protein.
The model described here may be an option for 10-20% of the patients with type 1 diabetes.
Conclusion
An educational program involving a low-carbohydrate diet and correspondingly reduced insulin doses for informed individuals with type 1 diabetes gives acceptable adherence after 4 years. One in two people attending the education achieves a long-term significant HbA1c reduction.
Many people at the meeting wanted Ian Day's notes on a Low Carbohydrate Diet. These are attached. I will post the notes in the next mail shot to those without an email address.