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Sugar v Fat

Mud Island Dweller said:
Dave in your races do you carry any form of drink. I have bought some protein drink arrived couple of days ago with the aim of post my main night work up having a drink to work through the night when l am resting. But was also thinking ahead to the race and wondering about carrying a tub and mix in some mashed banana to work as a fuel l will have a slow time l am not out to race anyone.

Also for a few days been thinking about pre train run and indoor excercise have a banana as a quick kick as l shall work it off not worried about any glucose.
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For anything less than an hour on my feet or the bike I don't feel the need, you shouldn't be deydrating that much in the UK. Possibly fo rinterval training, but that's it. For races of 10k or less, no.

I'll now carry carbs for races of any length, but for 10k, won't taken anything during the race.

Protein is also good for recovery, your protein drink is best taken soon after training, up to an hour after training, in addition to your normal diet.

Absolutely don't worry about a pre-work out banana, as you say you'll be burning that off no problem. For the race itself, I'd carry pre-packcged things just for ease of getting to, or a small bag of mixed nuts and dried fruits. For cycling bananas work as you can put them in your jersey pockets.
 
douglas99 said:
What was interesting though was both lost a small amount of weight, originally I predicted high carbs would gain, high fat would lose more.
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Yes, although they seemed to focus a lot on the loss of muscle on the no-carb diet - but they lost me at that point as I thought the ratio of fat:muscle loss was the same for both diets, but perhaps I misunderstood that?

Smidge
 
Smidge, it's on youtube at the moment so fast forwarded to the place. It is confusing but:
'Carb' Twin 1kg weight loss 50% fat, 50% muscle
'no carb ' Twin . They say that he lost 4kg of body mass Then they say to be accurate. 3.5 kg was weight loss 1.5 kg fat. 2.0kg was muscle ( perhaps the other .5kg was water)
 
Someone memory wise said take more vitamin B12. Do a quick google scan there is quite a few foods it is found in and chow down on more of thsoe. I seem to remember sardines a food l dont like being high but others have it as well.
 
No way will this programme change my mind about low carb, I enjoy my diet but if it were devoid of veggies and fruit I would find it impossible to follow.

It's low carb but not as we know it Jim:D
 
Interesting that their cholesterol remained almost the same. They skimmed over that. Would have been interesting to have known the numbers and seen a lipid breakdown.
 
Brian_H said:
I have thought of making my own too, but with that "real bread finder" it looks like there's no need.
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Ask questions and test though, even artisan bakers add things which, although good for bread, may not be good for us. They usually ahve two or three loaves though.
 
douglas99 said:
Well, I'm staying portion controlled, balanced diet for as long as possible.
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douglas99 said:
You need glucose as energy for your brain.
Estimates are up to 120g a day.
It's ok to have a ketogenic diet, and feed the brain that way, but even then you still need some glucose, your body will convert amino acids from your bodies protein in the absence of anything else. About 25% of the energy for your brain should be/needs to be glucose.
I'd never go below the full 120g personally, without a very good reason.
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Firstly, sorry for leaving this topic so abruptly last night...phone calls interrupted what was and still is an interesting thread.
Secondly, Douglas I know you don't agree with LCHF and are very articulate in explaining why. I however, am not convinced that the path I've chosen is wrong. Over the last twenty two years I've tried various methods to control my BG and to date this is the most effective and importantly, most satisfying way of eating (for ME!). Maybe I do need to slightly increase my carb intake.....time will tell.
 
i think we should listen to our bodies, they will tell us if we are doing wrong..... douglas is an anti, i tend to ignore him on the subject lol sorry mate
 
Andy12345 said:
i think we should listen to our bodies, they will tell us if we are doing wrong..... douglas is an anti, i tend to ignore him on the subject lol sorry mate
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:) Yes, I have noticed you are on opposite sides, tho' not quite pistols at dawn..... yet. Listening to my body is hopefully what I'm doing, in the same way as Douglas and others are listening to theirs. To misquote....We're all walking the same road but to different tunes :)
 
yes no pistols, i believe douglas has his heart in the right place so no bad feelings from me, he probly wants to kick me but heyho :)

and i know im not clever enough to be sure im right, i just think i am


edit: i wouldnt even go that far, id say i think i am listening to the right people, none of its my idea lol
 
Andy12345 said:
yes no pistols, i believe douglas has his heart in the right place so no bad feelings from me, he probly wants to kick me but heyho :)

and i know im not clever enough to be sure im right, i just think i am


edit: i wouldnt even go that far, id say i think i am listening to the right people, none of its my idea lol
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Andy mate, I think you do what suits you, so no problems.
It's always good to share on here, whatever we do, so keep on doing it.
 
Beachbag said:
Firstly, sorry for leaving this topic so abruptly last night...phone calls interrupted what was and still is an interesting thread.
Secondly, Douglas I know you don't agree with LCHF and are very articulate in explaining why. I however, am not convinced that the path I've chosen is wrong. Over the last twenty two years I've tried various methods to control my BG and to date this is the most effective and importantly, most satisfying way of eating (for ME!). Maybe I do need to slightly increase my carb intake.....time will tell.
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If it suits you, it's not wrong, so keep on doing it.
I don't disagree with LCHF,just not as a solution for all, but if it works, it's the right one for you.
 
douglas99 said:
Andy mate, I think you do what suits you, so no problems.
It's always good to share on here, whatever we do, so keep on doing it.
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so we're agreed, rapiers at 50 paces, having our duels but no-one gets hurt:cool::cool:
 
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