Yep I wouldn't have said I was massively overweight myself - so getting diagnosed was a shock - but apparently reading up on it - it's all to do with the concept of personal fat threshold. So lots of thin people can get this condition too. But you know that. And I love that idea of that rule. Sounds like a winner. "Keeping things simple and helping with perseverance should be the aim of anyone wishing to help diabetics with a diet which will hopefully be of great use to them" Great stuff.