I object to the idiots who issue blame for either diabetes type 1 or 2. I am type 2. However, all of my grandparents and their siblings on my mothers side were T1. I strongly believe that it's not just a question of who ate all the pies as 80% of obese people are not diabetic. I think there is a genetic connection there too. I think that not enough is known about T2 yet. The diet is a minefield. Some swear by the healthy plate and others by lchf. I fall into the latter camp but am a firm believer of each unto their own. In other words, if it works for you then go with it.I do see the truth in elements of this rant. I'm type 1 and have no experience of type 2, so I only say this as a response to my own experience. However, there is a probably largely unjust view in the public/press that 'diabetes' is caused by sitting on your **** and eating Burger King 3 meals a day.
I do not want to demonise any type 2, but as a young type 1, diagnosed at 11, being constantly told that I could have prevented my condition if I'd eaten less pizza or whatever as a child pisses me right off and was 100% the cause of several incidents of essentially burnout because I constantly felt blamed.
I have often said that I wish the two conditions were called something different, so that when the news etc talks about 'diabetes' that people don't instantly assume I've done something to cause a condition I hate living with.
I do feel for type 2 patients, because I get the impression there is a lot of misinformation, but it is not the same as type 1. I don't tell anyone about my diabetes any more, because I cannot cope with the comments. Nobody understands what type 1 is. It isn't the fault of any type 2, but of the news and press.
I am sure type 2 have their own problems too and this isn't a type 1 vs 2 issue, it is both types vs the general wrong reports in the papers.
I'm a needle phobe, I need 2 people to hold me down to have bloods taken, I do understand the comments like 'I couldn't do that to myself' wrt to taking insulin. I couldn't for several years, my mother had to inject me but if I didn't I would die. The difference between that and the 'you should have laid off the pies' is that the needle one is someone who doesn't really understand trying to say you are doing well or trying to empathise with how tough it is, the second one is basically victim blaming.
That's my rant. Don't get me started on health 'professionals' only ever focussing on the negatives, not what positive steps you have managed...
I liked your rant, Anaelena. I said so, I thought it was very funny. Maybe it wasn't supposed to be funny but it was for me. But this is an open board. It is not specifically yours. There is no unspoken rule that you get to say whatever you think, but nobody else can respond with what they think too. But I didn't think your rant was offensive.
I am older than you, though, and while I used to feel like you when I was younger, I got over it about twenty years ago. It's no use being stuck in your anger at the disease and other people's reactions, in my opinion. Anger (and a rant, and your latest reaction to my comment expresses nothing else) is not a pleasant or healthy feeling in the long term. And since we are not going to get rid of our diabetes, we'd probably better get rid of the anger. That's my stance. And I'm allowed to say so, Anaelena.
Plus, I am in my fifties, and fitter, slimmer, healthier than 95% of the other women I meet my age. That's because I have taken great care of myself compared with most people BECAUSE OF my diabetes. I found a plus in it. Likewise, I find a plus in all the friends I have made, some wonderful people, who are also marginalized or stigmatized in some way by society because of their disability or some other factor. I might not have looked at them, considered them as friends had I been able to fit into some Aryan ideal of the "perfect body".
I am actually happy to have diabetes. I'm loud and proud. Delighted to be Diabetic.
Scandi
Empathy is total for all diabetics.. This has always been the case with me. I did say I think T2's have a tougher time...
We do all actually pull together here...
Even my hubby this morn after 20 years of living with a diabetic got a rant from me this morn.... Not because of an insensitive remark. Just because I ad injection to do before going out... He was ready and I was still pondering how much insulin to give... Although he lived with me for 20 years and he didn't mind waiting etc it was frustration on my part that emphasised the fact I couldn't just get up n go..
I wasn't directing any comment against a T2. In fact some of a T1 rant as I said to hubby this morn was that from my aspect its just frustrating to see others sometimes being "normal" when we have to do certain things before going out, during the night testing etc.. So from my aspect I rarely rant but inwardly sometimes its pure frustration of never having a day off. I think this is especially hard for children but live in hope that they will get the opportunity in the future for some better treatment/cure to come along.
T2's and T1's are still diabetics and the norm is to support each other.
If I can get so frustrated with myself that my lovely, most sensitive hubby doesn't actually fully realise how the heck do "bystanders" to our illness really stand a chance of saying the right things??
My point exactly! Hugsx@Scandichic I think if we could all concentrate on our similarities rather than our differences it would breed a little more understanding between all types !
I've just read the facebook page from the mother of the diabetic 19year old.ok, she's a mum and no mum wants to read the bad stuff that could happen to their child, but it is a reality of the illness.
He's gone 19 years without complications, that's great. I just don't understand why she felt the need to stick her nose in to a conversation that didn't involve her.
.......and her comment about cgm's is laughable. Have they started giving them away for free now?
I've just read the facebook page from the mother of the diabetic 19year old.ok, she's a mum and no mum wants to read the bad stuff that could happen to their child, but it is a reality of the illness.
He's gone 19 years without complications, that's great. I just don't understand why she felt the need to stick her nose in to a conversation that didn't involve her.
.......and her comment about cgm's is laughable. Have they started giving them away for free now?
Anaelena, I completely empathize with you. As I said, I liked the rant. I thought it was really well written, well expressed and witty. See my first comment about it. My second comment just came because by coincidence, the other day one of my friends came up with the foot-finger-amputation comment. It was the first time in years that anybody had said something like that to me, it struck me as hilarious for several reasons, not least because I had just recently enjoyed your rant, and then, because of the context of my friend's illness, and her concern for me, it triggered all those thoughts in me. So I wanted to share them here because they seemed relevant. Not to reproach you. Again look at my first comment on your rant. I'm not reproaching you for the rant or for talking about the complications, etc. (My pet hate is not diabetics talking about complications, it's consultants who "threaten" diabetics with them - like terror ever improved a person's control.)There are always people who won't want to hear the rant or who cannot empathize or sympathize or who will say others have it worse . For anyone to say or to compare diseases seems unsympathetic. That is just my opinion . Sometimes allowing people to have some self pity or to exchange horror stories is okay . It may not be for everyone like that mother of the diabetic boy but some people need it to feel connected to others .
Anaelena, I completely empathize with you. As I said, I liked the rant. I thought it was really well written, well expressed and witty. See my first comment about it. My second comment just came because by coincidence, the other day one of my friends came up with the foot-finger-amputation comment. It was the first time in years that anybody had said something like that to me, it struck me as hilarious for several reasons, not least because I had just recently enjoyed your rant, and then, because of the context of my friend's illness, and her concern for me, it triggered all those thoughts in me. So I wanted to share them here because they seemed relevant. Not to reproach you. Again look at my first comment on your rant. I'm not reproaching you for the rant or for talking about the complications, etc. (My pet hate is not diabetics talking about complications, it's consultants who "threaten" diabetics with them - like terror ever improved a person's control.)
I also don't have anything against Type 2s. My dad was the one who looked after me when I was a child and he also got Type 2 in his sixties, though he was slim, fit and a tennis player.
But I do feel that research into Type 1 is relatively neglected, not just compared with research into Type 2, but also other conditions. Look how the research funding dropped off in the eighties when money was poured into AIDS research. It just seems like there aren't enough of us to make it worth researchers' while to try and cure us! So, yes, I could add a few things.
There are always people who won't want to hear the rant or who cannot empathize or sympathize or who will say others have it worse . For anyone to say or to compare diseases seems unsympathetic. That is just my opinion . Sometimes allowing people to have some self pity or to exchange horror stories is okay . It may not be for everyone like that mother of the diabetic boy but some people need it to feel connected to others .
I guess that is my point . I did try to sympathize with her as a mother and I can imagine it is difficult but so often people don't want to " hear it ". As a kid I wanted to know other diabetics and what they were going through but never got that chance . We had no social media like we do now . Why can't we rant without feeling like **** or being told we don't have it so bad ? Why do we have the need to tell people not to feel " angry " or to suck it up ? Also at the end you can see the young man who asked the question . Are we to say because others are so uncomfortable with this that we cannot speak about it ? Because that mother wants to smell the roses that young man needs to be worried about asking the question ?
Fully, agree with all of this.I have so much to rant about!
But as someone, who is so different to you lot of diabetics, that I feel frustrated, that I sometimes don't want to rant, I want to express and talk my feelings through.
Why me?
That's the big question!
What makes us so different?
But so alike as well!
We share knowledge, we give advice, we give encouragement, we help!
There is so much help needed out there and we are not alone no more because of this forum.
Let's not judge, accept people for what they are, no matter who or what and respect their problems, as if they were yours!
I have to deal with knowing that I'm weird, medically and look after my disabled wife and work because I don't have the luxury of retiring yet. I have to shop, clean, do the chores, cook, clean,polish, wash dishes and clothes and make sure that my wife is able to deal with her disability and get no respite from her pain and her meds.
From an early age, the both of us have worked our arses off, never claimed, brought up four great kids. Not once regretting anything, just getting on with life. As we were taught to do as responsible working class family's do!
Now if I was to go on, that would be a rant!
But that's not the way I was brought up, yes have a moan! But encouragement is better than judging.
There is always someone worse off than you!
It's so true.
My eldest son's father in law has been told he has cancer!
And it could be life threatening!
A great chap and a friend.
I've lost so many friends, best friends, colleagues and close relatives, that life is to short to argue and fight.
Let's all pull together and not worry about what is happening but what can we do to make it better and easier for someone who needs a shoulder to cry on.
If that means a rant, then go on and rant!
Fully, agree with all of this.
Maybe it is a generational thing, because I know we are a similar age @nosher8355. Could be our similar upbringing, but I know that we have to get on with what life chucks at us. Even when life seems unfair.
Yes I rant from time to time, it is very cathartic. I also know that if the rant continues beyond letting off steam, then people stop seeing and understanding a rant, and regard it as a whinge. Anyone continually whingeing is usually seen as someone to be avoided. So a quick occasional rant, and paying heed to someone else's rant (as long as it isn't a prolonged or constantly self pitying rant) is fine. Whingeing only alienates those from whom one is seeking empathy and understanding.
Scandi
Empathy is total for all diabetics.. This has always been the case with me. I did say I think T2's have a tougher time...
We do all actually pull together here...
Even my hubby this morn after 20 years of living with a diabetic got a rant from me this morn.... Not because of an insensitive remark. Just because I ad injection to do before going out... He was ready and I was still pondering how much insulin to give... Although he lived with me for 20 years and he didn't mind waiting etc it was frustration on my part that emphasised the fact I couldn't just get up n go..
I wasn't directing any comment against a T2. In fact some of a T1 rant as I said to hubby this morn was that from my aspect its just frustrating to see others sometimes being "normal" when we have to do certain things before going out, during the night testing etc.. So from my aspect I rarely rant but inwardly sometimes its pure frustration of never having a day off. I think this is especially hard for children but live in hope that they will get the opportunity in the future for some better treatment/cure to come along.
T2's and T1's are still diabetics and the norm is to support each other.
If I can get so frustrated with myself that my lovely, most sensitive hubby doesn't actually fully realise how the heck do "bystanders" to our illness really stand a chance of saying the right things??
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