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Type 1's What is your BG in the morning?

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by thetallerpaul, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. thetallerpaul

    thetallerpaul · Well-Known Member

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    Hello all,

    I have been posting in the Type 2 version of this thread as I was told was Type 2 initially but GAD results led to switch to Insulin and new diagnosis so would be good to see how Type 1's get on?

    Mine was 6.0 this morning which is currently the low end of normal for me. Not sure if I should put up my Slow acting insulin units before I go to bed as have never got lower than 5.5 and am regularly above 7.

    Paul
     
  2. Paul1976

    Paul1976 · Well-Known Member

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    I've just changed departments from Type 2 to a Type 1 recently so Hello fellow club member! :D
    18.2 this morning-not good but has been higher recently.I'm setting a goal to get it down to 10 and from then on to be at least in single figures.
     
  3. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    You wouldn't want to increase your 'Slow acting' Paul if you are trying to avoid lower morning fasting readings.

    Mine was 4.1 this morning and 4.4 yesterday so will knock a unit off tonight's lantus to get back in the 5's.
     
  4. thetallerpaul

    thetallerpaul · Well-Known Member

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    Noblehead,

    This is why I want this thread! I'm trying to get my morning reading down as I thought 6-8 as a range was a bit high so was thinking of upping to see if could hit 5-7 but is that me being influenced by the shiny low numbers the type 2's talk of? Would 4.4 not be a good result?

    Paul,

    I like this department. In my Type 2 office I blamed myself for all my eating habits. Now it was out of my hands. Somehow this makes it easier for me to deal with.

    Paul
     
  5. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    Paul, you could try increasing it by a unit if you are looking to get numbers below 6 but I took it in your last post that you were worried about being in the ''low end of normal for me'', if you do increase it then make sure you test for a couple of nights.

    To answer your question if 4.4 would be a good result then I'd have to say no (personally) as I prefer to wake with levels in the 5's, I'm a type 1 and have been for the last 31 years and have always had good strong hypo awareness symptoms, I believe were I too aim for lower numbers much like some type 2's do then I may see my hypo awareness diminish and consequently lose my licence and job.
     
  6. Paul1976

    Paul1976 · Well-Known Member

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    Me too!! Low carbing and oral meds and then being rewarded with my blood glucose increasing drove me mad in all honesty!
    I'm dealing with it a lot better now mentally-I'm just hoping some of the more unpleasant physical side affects of being uncontrolled will resolve themselves with better control.

    Paul
     
  7. thetallerpaul

    thetallerpaul · Well-Known Member

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    Noblehead,

    Thanks for that. It was low for me but thats a good thing. I'm not sure about it as being low in the day when I can react is one thing. Going low when asleep I'm less happy about the idea. I might speak to DSN again but I know they'll say don't do it. I'm like you pretty lucky with hypo awareness. Anything below 4.5 and I start to feel it./ I've never gone below that though so no idea what sub 4 feels like.

    Paul

    Hope so too!

    TTP
     
  8. Pneu

    Pneu · Well-Known Member

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    If you are waking up in the low 4's then its worth doing a couple of checks in the night to make sure your not dropping to low... although Lantus / Levemir have relatively flat profiles our bodies do all sorts of things in the early hours and your insulin needs aren't the same say at 1am to what they are at 5am...

    Myself I woke up at 4.7 mmol/l today and thanks to my darling daughter I know that I was 4.2 mmol/l at 3am :)
     
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    AMBrennan · Well-Known Member

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    4.2 mmol/l i.e. on target [consultant said to adjust Lantus until I get >5.5 so I'm deliberately ignoring her advice here because CGM shows BG is constant all night, and I don't drive or operate heavy machinery]
     
  10. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    Around 5.5 is where I'm most happy to be honest and this figure is what my consultant says is acceptable....but no lower, my night-time bg has been steady for some time so a reduction in the dose is on the cards tonight.

    Not driving or operating machinery does allow people (should they choose) to aim for lower bg figures than those reliant on a licence for their living.
     
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    5.9 this morning and yesterday morning. But like thetallerpaul i also used to wake up in 6's or 7's. I deal with that by increase my Levimir from 9 units to 10 units
     
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    I aim for 6-8 in the morning. I hate night-time hypos, and would rather be on the safe side without being too high.

    I'm slightly unusual in that I take my Lantus in the morning (about 7-8am), rather than at night. I found that helps keep a more normal profile overnight for me, and it works better for timing for me too.
     
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    ljwilson Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I try not to go to low at night, usually go to bed with an average of 6. If any lower my liver dumps and I can wake up in the 20's!

    Lorna
     
  14. Paul1976

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    20.6 this morning so slightly higher than yesterday although this morning I tested after my cup of tea instead of first thing so that may have made a difference.
     
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    Hi Guys,

    My morning bg was 6.8 this morning. Terrible day yesterday with 11. something all day up until bed time which was 5.6. Dont know why but not bad this morning! :)
     
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    Re the comment about Lantus> I'm slightly unusual in that I take my Lantus in the morning (about 7-8am), rather than at night. I found that helps keep a more normal profile overnight for me, and it works better for timing for me too.

    I found that when I took Lantus in one large dose it had a significant onset affect (literally would send me low about 90 minutes later), so I split it into 2 equal doses, 1 at 8am 1 at 8 pm. This works much better for me, the morning dosage still has a small onset effect but this approximately offsets the dawn effect (BG rising in the am without carbs), +/- a hobnob or two if I skip breakfast, and the evening gets absorbed into my humalog dosage for my evening meal.

    On subject I aim to wake up in the low 4's but don't drive for a living; sometimes much higher if I've eaten something with slow carbs the night before.

    Type 1 since 2004
    HbA1c's around 5
     
  17. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    Well I knocked 2 units off my lantus and woke with a respectable 5.6 having been 5.2 before bed, might have to put it up by a unit yet but will wait a day or two.
     
  18. thetallerpaul

    thetallerpaul · Well-Known Member

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    Mine was 5.2 this morning. Just tested after lunch and was up at 8.8 though. I've not had a bad day by any means so not sure whats the big idea there? I'm looking at you Pancreas. Don't try and hide behind the spleen. I can wait all day.
     
  19. Paul1976

    Paul1976 · Well-Known Member

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    Naughty Mr. Pancreas!! He sounds as Lazy as my workshy one!! perhaps i should have it out with him on The Jeremy Kyle show! :lol:
     
  20. robert72

    robert72 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    5.6 this morning, after which I have to battle against DP (treacherous liver).

    I also split Lantus morning and evening as it doesn't seem to work the full 24 hours for me.
     
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