Type 2 diabetes: losing weight the cure?

[SuNuman]

It might be part of it but isn’t something that can be applied generally

I have lost the weight, my hba1c is reading normal. However, eating too many carbs will cause my bloods to go to diabetic levels for an extended period. If it was purely weight then I would be able to eat anything I wanted without the impact but nope… lifelong need to eat differently

No. Once you are diagnosed you will always b diabetic. You just go into remission while you stay slim and eat carefully. X

 

[SuNuman]

No. Once you are diagnosed you will always b diabetic. You just go into remission while you stay slim and eat carefully. X

Which is I suppose similar to what you said. X.

 

[Ronancastled]

No. Once you are diagnosed you will always b diabetic. You just go into remission while you stay slim and eat carefully. X

That's essentially the crux of it.
Might get away with the odd cheat but it cant become a habit.
Why we may be delighted with <40 non-diabetic A1c a real non-diabetic eating low carb would have an A1c in the 20s

 

[coby]

Hi. I think weight is key.
My Nan, mum were diabetic and I am the 5th sibling to have diabetes out of 6.
I was diagnosed type 2 2/3 years ago - I lost 3 stone and my A1c went from 48 to 35.
Then lockdown hit. I put on 3 stone and ate carelessly. Now my A1c is 50 and I’m on metformin.
I AM going to b a star pupil again (as my GP called me). X.

That's the spirit! You are like me Suman in that you have a strong determination to get fit again after falling once. I keep reminding myself of all that sugar clinging to my blood cells and trying to damage every part of me, and it keeps me in 'fighting spirit' x

 

[muzza3]

Weight can play a big part for many T2's it did for me!. Carbs are a factor for all T2's. Exercise is an important part along with diet in both losing weight and returning BG levels to normal and keeping them there.

"Cure" has been debated many times on the forum and most people prefer "Remission"

Would be surprised if exercise alone could achieve "Remission"

Tea tree oil is a good option for Fungal Nail

 

[SuNuman]

That's the spirit! You are like me Suman in that you have a strong determination to get fit again after falling once. I keep reminding myself of all that sugar clinging to my blood cells and trying to damage every part of me, and it keeps me in 'fighting spirit' x

Exactly. X

 

[coby]

Exactly. X

and it's 'Goodnight' from me x

 

[Resurgam]

I just concentrated on eating low carb so my blood glucose was normal.
I lost weight without even thinking about it - only noticed when my clothes started to slide south.
By keeping my blood glucose in the normal range I got lower Hba1cs and was eventually reclassified as in remission - but I am still the same person who was telling my doctor I can't eat those 'healthy' carbs as they make me fat and feel dreadful. I was telling them that for almost half a century - but what do I know?

 

[zand]

No. Once you are diagnosed you will always b diabetic. You just go into remission while you stay slim and eat carefully. X

You can also go into remission without losing the weight if you eat carefully.

 

[Jo123]

Hi, I went to the GP today about a fungal growth on my toenail. The chemist's wouldn't sell me Curanail for £30 as they aren't allowed to sell it to diabetics, and so I got the GP to prescribe something similar, and so I will get it for free as I have an exemption card.

While I was there the doctor said "losing weight is the cure for diabetes - try walking 6 miles a day". I've read on many sites that the link between being overweight and having diabetes is not clear - it's an "association", but how the link works is not known. Is it really true that dropping a few stone will "cure" diabetes?

To be honest I think your gp is talking out of his backside and it really makes me mad!
I was diagnosed pre diabetic as a runner with a normal bmi.
I now have lower normal bmi, can't run but exercise and although I have normal hba1c's I still have to low carb to keep this way.

 

[HSSS]

To be honest I think your gp is talking out of his backside and it really makes me mad!
I was diagnosed pre diabetic as a runner with a normal bmi.
I now have lower normal bmi, can't run but exercise and although I have normal hba1c's I still have to low carb to keep this way.

Which goes to,prove whilst excess weight is an issue for some there are others for whom it is either only partly or not the case and that genetics or other physiological fa tors are the cause.

Type 2 seems to comprise several subsets and there have been discussions on here over the years about various naming propositions that don’t seem to take hold identifying some of these alternatives.

eta. This was one of the discussions https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/5-types-of-diabetes-what-do-we-think.166865/

 

[Jo123]

Which goes to,prove whilst excess weight is an issue for some there are others for whom it is either only partly or not the case and that genetics or other physiological fa tors are the cause.

Type 2 seems to comprise several subsets and there have been discussions on here over the years about various naming propositions that don’t seem to take hold identifying some of these alternatives.

eta. This was one of the discussions https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/5-types-of-diabetes-what-do-we-think.166865/

I totally agree but the fact remains that the op's gp is ignorant and prejudiced. I dearly wish it was that simple.

 

[SuNuman]

You can also go into remission without losing the weight if you eat carefully.

Good to kno. X

 

[Dark Horse]

It's worth reading this article quoting Professor Mike Lean who worked on the Diabetes Remission Clinical trial (DiRECT Trial) along with Professor Roy Taylor:-
'GPs need to tell people they can get rid of type 2 diabetes through weight loss ...'
https://theconversation.com/gps-nee...es-through-weight-loss-nutrition-expert-83995

 

[bulkbiker]

non-diabetic A1c a real non-diabetic eating low carb would have an A1c in the 20s

Do you have any evidence for this?

Quite keen to know if I'm truly now non-diabetic!

 

[bulkbiker]

It's worth reading this article quoting Professor Mike Lean who worked on the Diabetes Remission Clinical trial (DiRECT Trial) along with Professor Roy Taylor:-
'GPs need to tell people they can get rid of type 2 diabetes through weight loss ...'
https://theconversation.com/gps-nee...es-through-weight-loss-nutrition-expert-83995

The same Mike Lean who made the claim that low carb will kill us all...

 

[Jax21]

There is no way if hell had me that I could walk 6 miles a day (I have FMS and Arthritis) and I doubt many other people would even have the time for that. Weight loss if over weight is good for our body anyway. When I first got my T2 diagnosis the nurse told me she had other patients who were not overweight but still diabetic. By just cutting out the added sugars and keeping low carb I both lost weight and kept my BG under better control albeit with metformin too. I only ever had a raised BG issue when I went off the rails during lockdown, couldn't afford testing strips and ate all and sundry until a fright after my yearly blood test earlier this year. Now with my low carb meals, metformin, and no exercise other than walking around indoors, I've lost the weight put on during lockdown and more. My BG readings on my meter are within the range given on here, even with the possibility of the meter being slightly out. However, I am now 4 stone lighter in weight than when originally diagnosed in 2012, and 2 stone lighter than in March this year, and still diabetic and my BG ranges are back to before the lockdown mess up. At diagnosis I was 7.9 at the hospital hbac1 (I think that's the right name for the test they do?) and since it's been around the 8's, 8.2 8.4 except for march this year when I hit 10. and the fright it gave me helped me get back on track. Daily am around 6 before meals and below 8.5 after which is good enough for me now that I have sacked the panic mode...at least for now lol

 

[Dark Horse]

The same Mike Lean who made the claim that low carb will kill us all...

Reference, please?

 

[lucylocket61]

It is not necessary to lose weight in order to reduce blood sugar levels. I have been diagnosed for over 9 years. I have lost very little weight. I am still morbidly obese. However, my blood sugar level has remained relatively normal through most of this time due to low carbing. I cannot exercise much as I have ME/CFS.

It's all about the carbs. Exercise and/ or a high carb low calorie diet won't work long-term.

 

[bulkbiker]

Reference, please?

"earlier mortality" he didn't reply when asked for proof... although surprisingly didn't block me..