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Arber

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hi
I have been told (on phone)by a nurse that I have type 2 diabetes and to start taking metforman 500mg twice daily and come back in 4 weeks.
I phoned for a doctors appointment and the receptionist said the doctor would ring.
I told the doctor I am 5.7 and size 10-12 so not overweight and don’t know anyone in my family with it. She said I must be in the 10% bracket of diabetes that is not overweight. She said don’t change anything but take tablets as there’s nothing I can do!! I don’t understand anything. I am 60 and fit. Please help
 
There is plenty you can do @Arber & finding this forum is the best start :) I'll start by tagging @daisy1 who will be along to provide some basic information to help you get started.

In short you'll want to get yourself a blood glucose monitor so you can work out which foods increase your blood sugars the most. For most of us it is carbohydrates that do the damage so limiting carb intake is a great place to start. We all have different tolerances so this is where the blood glucose meter comes in handy. It's all a bit of a learning curve so feel free to ask any questions - this forum is full of people with years of experience in managing diabetes.
 
Hi safi
The doctor said on the phone that I don’t need any testing monitors and take the tablets explaining that it is like HRT trying to get the right dosage.
 
If you want to bring your blood sugar levels down, you need a monitor. If you decide to get one, ask here. We can point you in the right direction.

Most of us control by going low carb/high fat. It is extremely effective but weight loss is a by product. You would need to be careful to eat enough of the right foods so that you don't loose weight. It is a heck of a learning curve, but you do get the hang of it pretty quickly. One thing you do need to know the the result of the HbA1c test. Phone your surgery to get this number, it gives you a starting point as to how you are going to tackle this.
 
Hi safi
The doctor said on the phone that I don’t need any testing monitors and take the tablets explaining that it is like HRT trying to get the right dosage.

Yeah - they generally don't recommend testing as they seem to believe it will just stress people out & it can be a bit costly at first. However you won't know which foods raise your glucose or by how much if you don't test & diet really is your best weapon against diabetes. I'm also a thin diabetic (or pre-diabetic) & have managed to keep my levels in the non diabetic range by testing after meals & adjusting my diet accordingly.
 
Hi safi
The doctor said on the phone that I don’t need any testing monitors and take the tablets explaining that it is like HRT trying to get the right dosage.

Type 2s will rarely get testing kit on the NHS so Drs don’t encourage it. I along with many others test to see what sends our blood sugars up. May I ask what medication you’ve been started on? I have to say that it isn’t advisable to rely on tablets alone, you need to adjust your diet and self test. Loads of us here have done this and maintain non diabetic levels.
 
They didn’t tell me my results as to how bad it is so I will find out on the 16th when I go. What monitor will I buy please?
 
Here are some meters that are popular on the forum:

Taken from a post by @Bluetit1802 as she wrote it so nicely:


The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.


Try here for the Codefree meter

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/


and here for the extra strips

http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/


There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.

5 packs 264086

10 packs 975833


The Tee2 is here

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-plus-blood-glucose-meter/


Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter
 
@Arber
Hello Arber and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
When you order your meter you will need to order extra strips. I would bank on around 200 per month. Testing first thing in the morning and at bedtime as well as before and after each meal.

Download the mySugr app and record your food and readings. You can record other stuff as well. After a few days, based on your data, it will give you a predicted HbA1c. It is highly motivating.

Testing is not forever. Once your sugars are under control you will probably test every now and again to make sure you are on track or when you eat something new.
 
hi
I have been told (on phone)by a nurse that I have type 2 diabetes and to start taking metforman 500mg twice daily and come back in 4 weeks.
I phoned for a doctors appointment and the receptionist said the doctor would ring.
I told the doctor I am 5.7 and size 10-12 so not overweight and don’t know anyone in my family with it. She said I must be in the 10% bracket of diabetes that is not overweight. She said don’t change anything but take tablets as there’s nothing I can do!! I don’t understand anything. I am 60 and fit. Please help

Hi Arber. That wasn’t a very nice way to be told I imagine and then leave you hanging with questions until 16th!

It is a huge shock but easier when you get your head round it. I was very lucky as my GP gave me a testing kit and does prescribe some strips as he says he is willing to as I’m keen to learn. I still self fund but there is no way I could have reduced my BG levels without testing a LOT. I am also your height and size and the doc was surprised when he saw me and puzzled as I wasn’t “the usual type” ..... charming!

Read around the forum. I went very low carb (20g per day) immediately after throwing away the NHS Eatwell guide which just didn’t seem very logical to me. I am pleased to say I have just got my first Hba1c results since diagnosis three months ago and I have gone from 115 to 36 in three months on low carb and no meds! It can be done with the help of this fabulous forum and it’s very knowledgeable people. Stay strong and read, read, read. Best of luck x
 
Hi safi
The doctor said on the phone that I don’t need any testing monitors and take the tablets explaining that it is like HRT trying to get the right dosage.
I laughed and said something really rude when I read that - I don't know what is coming over me these days.
I might very well say that your doctor is treating you in the same way a mushroom grower tends his growing crop.
 
Hi @Arber welcome to the forum. You need to know what you are dealing with, are you just tipping over into diabetic (Hba1c reading close to 6.6) or are you well into the diabetic range (double figures).
When your meter arrives start to use it and record the results, I used a simple spreadsheet. It helps to start to see the patterns and to realize which foods are raising your blood sugar. Test before eating and 2 hours after first bite, or as close to that as you can manage. I tested each meal twice unless the results were very clear. You want the test after eating to be no more that 2 higher than before and then you can start to reduce that difference further. Add in any exercise that you have taken, weight, body measurements, mood, etc as and when you feel able. When you start cutting out carbohydrate the weight tends to drop off so you need to watch that whether you want to lose weight or not.
When you shop find the small print on the back of the packet and look for the carbohydrate content. If that is less than 10g in 100g then try it, if more than that treat it with care. It means that the weekly shop takes double time for a couple of weeks, but it is worth it in the long run. Generally speaking veg that grow above ground are Ok, those below ground tend to be more problematic. Dairy foods are good, double/extra thick cream, cheeses, butter on veg, eggs in all their forms are lower carb foods that also help you to feel full when eating a meal because they contain healthy fats.
Treat the next few weeks as a new adventure, you are going to start finding out more about your own body. It will be frustrating, exhilarating, puzzling and intriguing.
 
Hi. Your GP sounds pretty useless. yes, do get a meter and follow a low-carb diet. With Metformin the dosage doesn't make much difference (despite what the GP says) but if he prescribes Gliclazide for example it is important. As you are slim it is always possible you are late onset T1 (LADA) and not T2. Time will tell on that if despite a low-carb diet you blood sugar keeps going up.
 
Thanks for all of your advice.
I have cut down on the carbs and am now getting horrendous leg cramps.
There are loads of ideas in the forum re cramps, more salt if you are eating less processed foods, much more water, magnesium supplements or magnesium skin spray come to mind. Do search the forum for leg cramps.
What level of carbs are you eating?
 
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