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What Is It With Statin Drugs And Doctors?

Discussion in 'Non-Diabetic Medication' started by Doriand, Nov 7, 2016.

  1. gardengnome42

    gardengnome42 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Doriand I think you've answered your own question - the most important thing is obviously the profit margins of the pharmaceutical companies !!
     
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  2. Nicksu

    Nicksu Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm off the hook for the next 3 months with my doctor - we had a discussion today because of my thyroid levels (which aren't quite right yet) and as she said if the levels aren't correct, they can affect your cholesterol levels. I did point out that there was also contra indications of statins with myasthenia gravis (which I also have).
     
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  3. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Something to keep in mind: NICE Guidelines call for statins for all diabetics, regardless of cholesterol levels:
    • Patients with type 1 or type 2 diabetes should be offered 20mg atorvastatin for primary prevention of CVD
    Higher dosage recommendations depend on your actual cholesterol level and QRISK2 score.
     
  4. gardengnome42

    gardengnome42 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    NICE decree that patients with a Qrisk of 10% should be offered statins. It was reduced from 20% in 2014 with no sound reason. Given that your 'risk' increases each birthday you could be put on them for no other reason than your age. My dr offered me one [I wasn't diabetic] so I asked if she would take one given my state of health. She said no, emphatically, but that they had to offer them.
    She also entered into my notes that I wouldn't take them ...
     
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  5. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    from the BMJ 1/8/2017:
    "NICE guidelines could put 12 million UK adults on statins

    Almost all men over 60 and all women over 75 in England qualify for statin prescriptions under guidelines adopted by the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) in 2014, a new analysis shows.1

    Some 11.8 million people in England—37% of adults aged 30 to 84—exceed the threshold set by NICE for prescribing statins, the authors found. They said that most of these patients (9.8 million) are healthy, with no history of cardiovascular events, and are eligible for treatment simply because they exceed the risk threshold set by NICE: a 10% risk of experiencing such an event in the next 10 years.

    Even some people with no risk factors at all are part of this group by virtue of their age. Nearly all men exceed the 10% threshold by age 65, and all women do so by age 70, even if they are non-smokers of normal weight"
     
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  6. rab5

    rab5 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    well done you!
     
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  7. gardengnome42

    gardengnome42 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    It's the 'Just in case' attitude of NICE that makes me so cross. In fact it has turned me into a total sceptic about any instruction that comes from them.
     
  8. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but it's a bit like the EU directives - sometimes they can be used to our advantage.
     
  9. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    I had such a bad reaction to statins and Metformin that my husband stopped taking the statin he was on - he is a different person now.
    It was like getting back the man I married - and such a relief. My stress levels have dropped so much that it could well have been a contributory factor in my normal readings.
     
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  10. Tabbyjoolz

    Tabbyjoolz Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Wish I could persuade my husband to stop taking them. He did stop them for a while (around the same time we both started LCHF) and the transformation was miraculous. When his cholesterol rose he went back on to statins and returned to being the man who suffers constant aches and pains and feels generally out of it all the time.
     
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