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jjraak said:
A good afternoon to all.

Monsieur M'tre informed
me today's gonna be a 5.3 kinda day...... :cool:...gotta love that guy.

( Keeps on like this I'll have to consider quitting airbnb'ing in McGarrett Plains and look to buying somewhere of my own. )

A small ask.

Of late I've felt the best I have in a long while , aches, pains & limp not withstanding .

However I do sleep more..
...A lot more

Obv I'm back at work but only p/t & I'm doing gym twice a week, so using more energy

I've rationalised that if I'm not unwell (I don't feel ill )
That it's possibly part of my recovery ?

I like to visualise things.

For this the accident was a shipwreck .

I survived the ship going down, but for months maybe a year plus, I still felt the waves from it.

But now the waves aren't washing over me, but more ripples on the surface, so I'm not so disturbed by it.

So much so, that my body (likely my mind) is relaxed enough to now try recouping the energy it's expended over that time keeping me ticking over.

My mind feels 'calmer' in many ways, if that makes sense .

Am I widely off the mark ?
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One word. No
 
ianpspurs said:
How the deuce do you eat LC and get enough energy?
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I actually have absolutely no idea how you eat LC and get enough energy. I find it extremely weird that I have loads more energy when I eat LC than when I ate loads more carbs over Christmas and during January.

I must confess that I am not a great meat eater and do have my whey protein isolate drink every day. I also feel more energetic if I have lots of veggies plus seeds and kefir and inulin.
 
Krystyna23040 said:
I actually have absolutely no idea how you eat LC and get enough energy. I find it extremely weird that I have loads more energy when I eat LC than when I ate loads more carbs over Christmas and during January.

I must confess that I am not a great meat eater and do have my whey protein isolate drink every day. I also feel more energetic if I have lots of veggies plus seeds and kefir and inulin.
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Do you find it hard to maintain a sensible weight if you don't mind me asking? I don't need to know your weight just curious as you are very active and very low carb.
 
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ianpspurs said:
Great fbg so little house on the McGarrett Prairie for JJ upcoming. As for the sleep, from what I've read it can go with the LC territory for a significant proportion. More exercise and energy expended perhaps means you can eat and deal with a few more carbs. Fitbit linked to Cronometer has clearly shown I sleep longer and better with more carbs on board (still <40.) Also, thanks for the cals related reply - especially not mentioning Fung or DD. Cals out wise I do my 10k steps but that is surely just a basic starter at my age?
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An interesting link .

Suppose it makes good sense

Any carby meal (think pre LCHF Christmas dinner) I felt tired enough afterwards to want to sleep (carb coma) so less making that sleepy feeling less likely, seems about right.

Interesting point about the possible step up in carbs

However I think not in this case, as the step up was almost from the get go, with hospital food choices, then being unable to do anything for myself, so just eating what was available.

Though you do remind me, while I limit & observe a lower LC in foods, I still persevere with some non LC for the overall health benefits that are personal .

The 5's are a mix of norm LCHF & some more naughty delights that if I'm honest, I don't measure for post meal.

Bananas being one such thing.
Suspect the increased exercise etc, does masks much of the impact, as you allude to..mmhh

But it's good, your post has reminded me I should really make more of an effort to count the daily amounts & go back to pre post meal testing, at least for a week, just to see how my body now reacts .
 
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ianpspurs said:
On other threads people often say they are full or even gaining weight. I'm baffled how that happens with LC food.
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Yes, I can definitely put on weight on LC. If I feel I am starting to look too skinny I just have to up the cream in my coffee and eat more cheese. Not hard to do as I love cheese and could happily eat cream on its own - especially clotted cream. I think that we are all different in how our bodies react to food.

I can only eat so much red meat. The dogs just love going out for meals with us as restaurant portions of meat are just too much for me and I feel really yuk if I try to. Guess who gets what I cannot eat. Funnily enough I don't feel the same about fish - but I do still save some for the doggies.
 
ianpspurs said:
A question for those who are physically active. I don't think I am any longer. How the deuce do you eat LC and get enough energy? I accept that I try to avoid overloading my kidneys so, for example, cheese and eggs are carefully managed. I guess most of you find red meat more appealing than I. I'd also say my carbs are pretty high due to incorporating gut mircobiome friendly foods including some peanut butter (crunchy, organic, no palm oil obs). On other threads people often say they are full or even gaining weight. I'm baffled how that happens with LC food. I do consume little or no alcohol - which is pretty calorific - most of the time. Please don't mention Diet Dr or I may self combust.
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ianpspurs said:
Sorry about the sleep but from what I've read it can go with the LC territory for a significant proportion. I sleep longer and better with more carbs on board. Also, thanks for the cals related reply and not mentioning Fung or DD. Cals out wise I do my 10k steps but that is surely just a basic starter at my age?
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Afternoon @ianpspurs hmmm
Define physically active, it’s different for each of us. 10 000 paces is a memory for me.
Low carb and also low carb and high fat did not work me and also just low carb does not work for me.
Can you remember the unofficial who gets the lowest blood sugar competition or so it seemed and also the longest fasting fad that a few followed?

Bitter experience has taught me that I need carbs to function in the morning, for me carbs mean energy to carry out my task’s during the day. I also eat lunch, followed by an afternoon nap till approximately 14:00 hrs but normally stop my tasks about 16:30hrs then rest up.
I enjoy my life and feel privileged to be alive after many visits to the surgeons table taking some extremely powerful anti rejection drugs every day, I always look for the bright side of life, bring a smile to a face known or unknown even if it is at my expense, I just don’t care. I evaluated many years ago what is going to kill first, diabetes or the side effects of my medication.
Diabetes is not going to kill me first , therefore I concentrate on the medication, realising that I need carbs, which enables me to do things which also makes me happy and brightens up my day.
Now this my philosophy with my medical conditions.

Knowing a little of your medical battles from your postings I would throw the diabetes concerns to one side and spend your energies on finding out what gives more energy enabling you to enjoy you life, grandchildren and importantly your body to fight the medical battles
My weight remains approximately constant and I am classified as obese.

Good luck, remember the bulk of this posting is how I handle carbs
 
alf_Josiah said:
Afternoon @ianpspurs hmmm
Define physically active, it’s different for each of us. 10 000 paces is a memory for me.
Low carb and also low carb and high fat did not work me and also just low carb does not work for me.
Can you remember the unofficial who gets the lowest blood sugar competition or so it seemed and also the longest fasting fad that a few followed?

Bitter experience has taught me that I need carbs to function in the morning, for me carbs mean energy to carry out my task’s during the day. I also eat lunch, followed by an afternoon nap till approximately 14:00 hrs but normally stop my tasks about 16:30hrs then rest up.
I enjoy my life and feel privileged to be alive after many visits to the surgeons table taking some extremely powerful anti rejection drugs every day, I always look for the bright side of life, bring a smile to a face known or unknown even if it is at my expense, I just don’t care. I evaluated many years ago what is going to kill first, diabetes or the side effects of my medication.
Diabetes is not going to kill me first , therefore I concentrate on the medication, realising that I need carbs, which enables me to do things which also makes me happy and brightens up my day.
Now this my philosophy with my medical conditions.

Knowing a little of your medical battles from your postings I would throw the diabetes concerns to one side and spend your energies on finding out what gives more energy enabling you to enjoy you life, grandchildren and importantly your body to fight the medical battles
My weight remains approximately constant and I am classified as obese.

Good luck, remember the bulk of this posting is how I handle carbs
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Thanks for taking the time to reply @alf_Josiah. Physically active is certainly a variable. For me it meant the >20k+ steps plus a significant amount of resistance exercise and static bike/gym x3 I was doing. Hence not feeling I'm active atm. As for diet, from what I've read and discussed with consultants what feeds T2 may feed tumours. They are content with my bloods, way of eating and response to the current regime. As far as I can tell most carby foods have little to no nutritional value in my situation. As they say, oranges aren't the only fruit/horses for courses. Your way has clearly worked for you thankfully.
 
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jjraak said:
So much so, that my body (likely my mind) is relaxed enough to now try recouping the energy it's expended over that time keeping me ticking over.

My mind feels 'calmer' in many ways, if that makes sense .

Am I widely off the mark ?
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I think that you are spot on @jjraak . It makes company sense that you would be sleeping much better now and that this will definitely aid your recovery.
 
Had a difficult day. It appears the antibiotics I took have stopped my bowel working, it was blocked up yesterday but ok the day before.
I have been taking Laxido and a stool softener with not much response as yet.
Today I went to local chemist, open this am but they had no suppositories...the only Tories I could possible require.

Then back home and then did the 12 miles to Silloth on the coast to get some from the chemist before it shut at 1300.
Didn't even get an ice cream and look at the front!

Then back home but couldn't resist pointing out to Marjorie the so called 6 meter high raised beach when the land was much lower and weighed down by ice. There are also signs of the mediaeval strip farming on the drumlin the road to Abbey Town goes up
Got home soon after 1200 and had a quick lunch and then tackled an unpleasant job.
A measure of help but far from a solution.
Episode 2 tomorrow
D.
 
ianpspurs said:
A question for those who are physically active. I don't think I am any longer. How the deuce do you eat LC and get enough energy? I accept that I try to avoid overloading my kidneys so, for example, cheese and eggs are carefully managed. I guess most of you find red meat more appealing than I. I'd also say my carbs are pretty high due to incorporating gut mircobiome friendly foods including some peanut butter (crunchy, organic, no palm oil obs). On other threads people often say they are full or even gaining weight. I'm baffled how that happens with LC food. I do consume little or no alcohol - which is pretty calorific - most of the time. Please don't mention Diet Dr or I may self combust.
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I am not physically active in the way that many of you on this thread can walk 10,000 plus steps a day. I cannot walk far in one go, only a few steps. However I can use a stepper and I can use a rowing machine.

My energy comes from eating low-carb. If I up my carbs to what I fancy eating, then it sends me to sleep for a couple of hours. I have always been like this for as long as I can remember. I can remember one instance in the 1990s somebody making me some lovely macaroni cheese, and my body just wanted to sleep and sleep.

I also remember going to my doctor's at that time, and on other occasions asking why certain foods did this to me, and I was told that's nonsense.

Did I have diabetes then?

The foods I would love to eat have too many carbs in them. And make me feel ill now.

I need to eat low carb for several reasons. And I am also more mentally alert when I eat low-carb. Being mentally alert is very important to me.

I am classed as obese. And I don't lose weight on low carb. It is what it is, unless I can find a reason/solution. I do not eat a lot. I do not usually feel hungry, in the way that other people who have diabetes say they feel they are hungry.

I also need my naps during the day, to be able to continue.

I was diagnosed with arthritis in the 1970s, Sjogren's syndrome in the 1990s, and fibromyalgia, early 2000s, and a few other things popped in as well for good measure.

And I research. Fortunately we have the internet nowadays. And I do try different ideas.

Is that any help Ian?
 
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I do eat low carb (as low as I can manage) but don't get extra energy from it. That is because of the lack of sleep and painkillers. As with Gennepher, walking more than a few, painful, staggering steps is impossible, so no hope of actually walking 100 steps, never mind 10000. As usual, horses for courses. I believe, now that LC has brought my blood sugar down into range, I am improving insulin levels and weight but that is only on the bare minimum of carbs (ie no starchy carbs at all - only whatever is in the vegetables that go along with the protein). This is me - it won't be the same for any other person. There is no "average" diabetic any more than there is any average person. I am unique - as are you - all of you. It's just a matter of finding out what works - and then keeping on checking as the body/diabetes changes its response and tries to outwit you.

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BG at 2.30 am was 6.4. Immediate response to putting my basal dose up again. For now it will have to stay at 58 units whatever the diabetes nurse says. Feeling much better today, even though I didn't get much sleep. Pretty tired though, and ready to dose off now, so I might just sit in the big chair and see what happens.
 
ianpspurs said:
A question for those who are physically active. I don't think I am any longer. How the deuce do you eat LC and get enough energy? I accept that I try to avoid overloading my kidneys so, for example, cheese and eggs are carefully managed. I guess most of you find red meat more appealing than I. I'd also say my carbs are pretty high due to incorporating gut mircobiome friendly foods including some peanut butter (crunchy, organic, no palm oil obs). On other threads people often say they are full or even gaining weight. I'm baffled how that happens with LC food. I do consume little or no alcohol - which is pretty calorific - most of the time. Please don't mention Diet Dr or I may self combust.
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I am not sure of a satisfying solution to this. Physical activity is a movable feast - sometimes I get frisky and get in several miles - some days not so much. I am OK with that. I do the meat, dairy, lots of eggs, seeds nuts sort of thing and if I feel hungry a bit of cheese or a few mixed nuts and seeds seem to work. I suppose that you could incorporate more of what you like - avo and salmon but then it’s not a smashing treat after a couple of days. Would high protein yoghurt help - yours, clutching at straws.
 
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jjraak said:
A good afternoon to all.

Monsieur M'tre informed
me today's gonna be a 5.3 kinda day...... :cool:...gotta love that guy.

( Keeps on like this I'll have to consider quitting airbnb'ing in McGarrett Plains and look to buying somewhere of my own. )

A small ask.

Of late I've felt the best I have in a long while , aches, pains & limp not withstanding .

However I do sleep more..
...A lot more

Obv I'm back at work but only p/t & I'm doing gym twice a week, so using more energy

I've rationalised that if I'm not unwell (I don't feel ill )
That it's possibly part of my recovery ?

I like to visualise things.

For this the accident was a shipwreck .

I survived the ship going down, but for months maybe a year plus, I still felt the waves from it.

But now the waves aren't washing over me, but more ripples on the surface, so I'm not so disturbed by it.

So much so, that my body (likely my mind) is relaxed enough to now try recouping the energy it's expended over that time keeping me ticking over.

My mind feels 'calmer' in many ways, if that makes sense .

Am I widely off the mark ?
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Sounds like your body and more importantly your mind are healing well. My own take - focus on the improvements and visualise a good future outcome.
 
Good morning everyone on a beautifully quiet start to the day here in the dark and dangerous north. The chocolate eaters departed yesterday, taking their spoils with them. I am expecting a pretty quiet day today and probably something of a decent walk. Also, the funicular is working so it might include a trip both down and up the cliff. We could of course walk through the woods down to the beach as it’s a more gentle drop and we can take in the smells of trees and wild garlic. Art bit - colour added. Have a most pleasant Easter Sunday. I began mine by drinking a mug of tea and then half a cafetière of koffy.


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dunelm said:
Good morning everyone on a beautifully quiet start to the day here in the dark and dangerous north. The chocolate eaters departed yesterday, taking their spoils with them. I am expecting a pretty quiet day today and probably something of a decent walk. Also, the funicular is working so it might include a trip both down and up the cliff. We could of course walk through the woods down to the beach as it’s a more gentle drop and we can take in the smells of trees and wild garlic. Art bit - colour added. Have a most pleasant Easter Sunday. I began mine by drinking a mug of tea and then half a cafetière of koffy.


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This is stunningly beautiful @dunelm
 
Annb said:
BG at 2.30 am was 6.4. Immediate response to putting my basal dose up again. For now it will have to stay at 58 units whatever the diabetes nurse says. Feeling much better today, even though I didn't get much sleep. Pretty tired though, and ready to dose off now, so I might just sit in the big chair and see what happens.
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Hi Ann,
A story for Easter.
Two friends of ours, their grandchildren, twin boys, they must be about 14, are apparently getting baptised in a Loch just south of Stornoway this Easter.
When I asked if the water was cold, no they would be ok they would be wearing their wet suits.
D.
 
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