What was your fasting blood glucose? (with some chat)

[JohnEGreen]

My pharmacist told not to take Ibuprofen because it can raise blood glucose (I has asked if it was OK).

Normal dose should not effect BG very much at high dosage it can lower BG.

Abstract
"Larger-than-conventional doses of nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) are known to lower plasma glucose levels. This phenomenon has raised the questions whether or not NSAIDs in conventional dosage can be used for the treatment of hyperglycemia in patients who have non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus and whether or not NSAIDs added to preexistent hypoglycemic drug therapy taken orally may lead to unanticipated hypoglycemia. In this study we evaluated aspirin, sodium salicylate and ibuprofen given in conventional dosage to hyperglycemic patients with adult-onset (type II) diabetes. Half the patients were usually treated for hyperglycemia by means of diet only and half with diet plus hypoglycemic drugs given orally. Significant changes in plasma glucose levels were not seen after the administration of a combination drug containing aspirin and magnesium-aluminum hydroxide (Ascriptin, 650 mg three times a day; glucose change = 236±30 to 236±31 mg per dl) or sodium salicylate (600 mg three times a day; glucose change=284±76 to 273±84 mg per dl). A statistically significant but small change was seen with the administration of ibuprofen (600 mg three times a day; glucose change=196±60 to 179±47 mg per dl) but not when giving ibuprofen (300 mg three times a day; glucose change=267±78 to 282±60 mg per dl). The results of this study indicate that conventional doses of NSAIDs should not be used for treating hyperglycemia and that, since the additive hypoglycemic effect of NSAIDs in conventional doses was minimal or negligible, they can be used safely for other purposes in diabetic patients taking hypoglycemic drugs orally."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1010876/

Edit to add it is not safe to take if taking metformin and you have kidney problems.

 

[SaskiaKC]

All this talk of ibuprofen, etc., is making me wonder what other OTC pain relievers y'all have taken/known about? I have tried each of these at least once over the years, including a couple no longer available:

aspirin
Bufferin (buffered aspirin -- woops! nearly made a bad typo there! )
Anacin
Excedrin
acetaminophen -- Tylenol and generics
ibuprofen -- Advil and the NoLongerAvailable Nuprin (which I preferred) and generics
naproxen -- Aleve and generics
Mobigesic -- I was told to get this by my doctor when I had a ruptured lumbar disc 20-ish years ago -- NLA

There used to be TV commercials for Panadol about a passenger who was given it by a flight attendant on an international flight and that now it was available in the US -- but I don't think it ever actually was; it is not now.

 

[Goonergal]

Good morning all. Blood sugars still a bit wonky from the cold. They went up to 7.1 half an hour after taking an ibuprofen yesterday -- up by 1 mmol. Does ibuprofen raise blood sugars? Have any of you experienced something similar?

Woke up this morning to 5.3 this morning, so better than yesterday. Hope this means I am on the mend.

Take care everybody. Have a wonderful day.

Sorry you’re not feeling good. I think ibuprofen can raise blood sugars - depending on the brand they sometimes have sugar in the coating too.

 

[JohnEGreen]

Well I'm not a happy bunny just had a look at my latest results and HbA1c is up to 41 from 38 not good.

 

[Debandez]

5.2 today. Presentation yesterday went really well. I was thrilled. Massive thanks to @xfieldok for her support and sharing her journey (and homemade cheesy nibbles!!! Delish).

I think 2 hours is defo too long though. One poor newbie was struggling. She looked uncomfy but really wanted to be there. Strangulated hernia and other issues too!!! I gave her a lift home and a bit of a pep talk . she is going through the mill. Another new face that came via a Facebook post. It works. And a few from my Tesco monthly meet up group who wanted to hear about my journey. Adam the comms from my surgery. My hubby who came in his lunch hour . We fit perfectly around the training room table. I told everyone this was my first session and welcomed interaction. That was good. It was very informal. Most just sat and listened. My journey followed by Paul who does pt to pt re depression, anxiety and mindfulness. Then @xfieldok journey . I feel everyone got something out if it. I dont think that format would be good for every session. You would only be able to get newbies. I've had a rethink today. I would like to do something in the community like sw or ww. Carb counters. But it's way too much of a commitment. So was feeling a bit at a loss. Until I received an email from my surgery, and the PR team. My GP PM would like another date from me. Talking to the ccg about us having a dedicated room for pt to pt but emphasised it's just talks. I thought 'YES ' that's what I would love to do. 1 session a month at my surgery. But not just for diabetics. Not enough interest I feel. At the mo when the advise is take these pills and eat everything you like. but incorporating weight loss with low carb. So I'm buzzing. PR team want to go to local paper re session and want quotes from PM. Blackpool n fylde needs all the help it can get!!! Also a pt who couldn't make it wants to get in touch. Wants to try low carb! I'm making up a pack for them and dropping off at the surgery tomorrow .

 

[karen8967]

Goodnight everyone sleep well

 

[philchap1]

4 greeted me this morning, I have been suffering from cluster hypos at the moment, usually 4 one after another and reading's aren't getting above 4. Turned my pump down a lot and running temp basal. My care teams advice???? Sometimes Diabetes does what it wants, like now!! Ahhhh well enforced sofa laying about as I feel terrible hopefully it won't last too much longer as I've had enough.


Take care everyone

I feel your pain, had 4 days of lows dropping from 6.8 to 2.4 in less than 20 mins, turned pump off, still dropped, I ran basal test yesterday nothing to eat from 5pm until 1pm today and everything was fine, reduced insulin to carb ratio which was a little better , maybe it's the rise in temperature due to a few summer days lol . Take care you are not alone lol

 

[philchap1]

Goodnight everyone sleep well

Goodnight Karen and everyone x

 

[Cumberland]

Goodnight all

 

[jjraak]

5.2 today. Presentation yesterday went really well. I was thrilled. Massive thanks to @xfieldok for her support and sharing her journey (and homemade cheesy nibbles!!! Delish).

I think 2 hours is defo too long though. One poor newbie was struggling. She looked uncomfy but really wanted to be there. Strangulated hernia and other issues too!!! I gave her a lift home and a bit of a pep talk . she is going through the mill. Another new face that came via a Facebook post. It works. And a few from my Tesco monthly meet up group who wanted to hear about my journey. Adam the comms from my surgery. My hubby who came in his lunch hour . We fit perfectly around the training room table. I told everyone this was my first session and welcomed interaction. That was good. It was very informal. Most just sat and listened. My journey followed by Paul who does pt to pt re depression, anxiety and mindfulness. Then @xfieldok journey . I feel everyone got something out if it. I dont think that format would be good for every session. You would only be able to get newbies. I've had a rethink today. I would like to do something in the community like sw or ww. Carb counters. But it's way too much of a commitment. So was feeling a bit at a loss. Until I received an email from my surgery, and the PR team. My GP PM would like another date from me. Talking to the ccg about us having a dedicated room for pt to pt but emphasised it's just talks. I thought 'YES ' that's what I would love to do. 1 session a month at my surgery. But not just for diabetics. Not enough interest I feel. At the mo when the advise is take these pills and eat everything you like. but incorporating weight loss with low carb. So I'm buzzing. PR team want to go to local paper re session and want quotes from PM. Blackpool n fylde needs all the help it can get!!! Also a pt who couldn't make it wants to get in touch. Wants to try low carb! I'm making up a pack for them and dropping off at the surgery tomorrow .

ouch, that sounds painful for that lady...and recently dx T2D

liking the responses though AND the offer of a room and regular monthly sessions...way to go, @Debandez ..
not forgetting you @xfieldok

What with the news about WW, and our Debs..the future for the next wave of type 2's is looking rosier by the minute..

 

[Debandez]

ouch, that sounds painful for that lady...and recently dx T2D

liking the responses though AND the offer of a room and regular monthly sessions...way to go, @Debandez ..
not forgetting you @xfieldok

What with the news about WW, and our Debs..the future for the next wave of type 2's is looking rosier by the minute..

Yes keto and low carb is seeing brilliant results. All info free online! No weekly commitment. It certainly feels like its building momentum. Just need nhs guidelines to fall in line!

There is a man in liverpool area who does low carb sessions. Also a t2d. I've just asked him if he might share his talks as templates for advocates like myself to use up and down the country. I think he is having great success. Winning formula.

 

[Kittycat_7_]

Really pleased 5.5 in range now thank goodness.

 

[SaskiaKC]

Really pleased 5.5 in range now thank goodness.

Yay! Congratulations!

 

[SaskiaKC]

@Debandez thanks for posting about your seminar. Congratulations to you and @xfieldok and your surgery crew!

 

[trick60]

Good morning folks, the tarot cards say "5.2, and you will meet a stranger with a wooden leg, or it may be your wife with a rolling pin"......Happy Friday all.

 

[karen8967]

3.6 for me 2 rich tea b4 work up to 5.4 have a good day

 

[karen8967]

 

[Emma_369]

Morning all. 4.4 on the meter today

 

[philchap1]

Morning everyone, had to change pump cannula at 4 am as blood glucose levels were rising , 9.2 at 4 am 6.8 now, have a goid Friday.

 

[DJC3]

Morning all. 5.7 today still have this dreadful cold but luckily no commitments today that I can’t rearrange which is a great relief as I can barely speak.
@ziggy_w how is your cold?
@Debandez and @xfieldok well done for all your work on the presentation, the team at your surgery sound great too.
@karen8967 and @johnpol I hope you are both feeling ok now.