• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2025 Survey »

What was your fasting blood glucose? (with some chat)

Morning all I had my eye surgery on Friday morning and my BS was 4.1! The surgery was meant to last 20 minutes, mine had to last 45 minutes, lot's of injections and more rummaging than planned it all went well. So the healing begins, best of all though my readings are all in single figures. 6.1 this morning, long may it last!

Take care everyone
 
Morning all I had my eye surgery on Friday morning and my BS was 4.1! The surgery was meant to last 20 minutes, mine had to last 45 minutes, lot's of injections and more rummaging than planned it all went well. So the healing begins, best of all though my readings are all in single figures. 6.1 this morning, long may it last!

Take care everyone
@johnpol Hope healing goes well and everything clicks into gear for your competition as you have worked so hard and retained an admirable sense of proportion ever since I have been aware of your postings.
 
@johnpol Hope healing goes well and everything clicks into gear for your competition as you have worked so hard and retained an admirable sense of proportion ever since I have been aware of your postings.
Thanks, the healing is going well and I'm planning my return to the gym and comp prep already, can't wait
 
"It would appear from the feedback I received from the surgery via the practice manager that I'm the only patient EVER to have put my diabetes into remission apart from the post bariatric surgery patients (We are entitled to ask for stats if anyone else is thinking of doing this as it doesn't breach patient confidentiality, the results could be incredibly interesting). I was shocked to the core but I'm not surprised nobody else has to be honest as they are all obviously following the progressive disease guidelines and nobody has questioned anything or looked to Google as I did. ...."


Bloody well done!!! I'd love to know what my surgery statistics are . My doctor advised me that testing Creates anxiety ....yea right doc.....
Yes it makes most doctors very anxious when we test.
 
Yes it makes most doctors very anxious when we test.
I don't think they really care as long as we don't bother them or the bulk of their flock. If we test and stay good, docile, patients they are happy enough IMHO. Right now they have the longitudinal studies to support their view i.e. progressive and inevitable. Please note I am not agreeing just pointing out we don't have the length of evidence yet.
 
So I've been thinking about why my cholesterol is up after two years of low carbing and has never been an issue before , ........

The variables I can think of are:

1) I am more active . : I now walk on average 5 miles per day and cycle to the shops each day rather than take the car.

2) I eat far less carbs - I now dont count but best estimate its 20 -30 grams per day from nuts and above ground veg.

3) I dont drink beer

4) I eat more meat .... During different stages of my life I've been vegetarian and vegan for short periods

5) I eat more eggs ...lots of them 2 for breakfast and often more during the day

6) I rarely eat fruit ....ok I have the occasional berry..... ( over the last 2 years I've tested and all fruit spikes me )

Its unlikely that it could be 1) But maybe , just maybe theres something in my diet I'm now missing out on in micronutrients

So having read a whole bunch of info on anthocyanin supplementation I've decided to add 300mg daily to see if it helps. Also to cut down on eggs

If you'd like to see my reasoning read these:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25833778
https://www.wellnessresources.com/news/brain-protective-effects-of-proathocyanidins
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/145/4/742/4585720

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/cholesterol/2018/6303810/

Now all I have to do is find a reliable way of being tested in 3/4 months time....
 
Hi @Canvaspic if you are going for Keto you need to be eating 20 g carbs or less per day. Watch out for the hidden carbs, especially in veg. Just have above ground veg such as Cauliflower, cabbage, Brussels sprouts etc. This will help https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods. Fasting will get you into Ketosis quicker. You could start by not eating after 7.00pm and start again at 7.00am that will give you 12 hours of fasting. You can then build it up slowly by either moving or skipping a meal like breakfast so that you then do 16/8 that's 16 hours fasting and 8 eating window. You can have black tea, coffee and water during fasting. If at any time during fasting you don't feel to good just eat. :happy:

Yes, I looked at ketogains website, and their calculator is coming out at 25. When I did a 3 day fast I only got ketones on the 3rd day.
This week is mostly about getting my head aroud the ultra low carbs. I am also doing very long walks (10 to 12 miles) . All in the hope that next week a bit of a push will tip me into ketosis. That push may come with some calorie restriction and 18/6 fasting. Currently at 25 carbs today, BG is good but noting special.
 
@Cumberland I hope your bloods come back satisfactory on all fronts.

Well the nurse struggled to find a vein in both arms with needle and back of both hands so she booked me in with a phlebotomist for 26th September

I’m not surprised as my veins hide lol
She was slightly embarrassed but I told her that many others had tried in vain or vein lol
 
I don't think they really care as long as we don't bother them or the bulk of their flock. If we test and stay good, docile, patients they are happy enough IMHO. Right now they have the longitudinal studies to support their view i.e. progressive and inevitable. Please note I am not agreeing just pointing out we don't have the length of evidence yet.
Part of the problem for me is the apathy I have encountered among my HCP team & other 'professionals'...initially I assumed all I need do was take the pills as directed...things would improve...my GP wasn't overly concerned why should I be?...this is how I started...now of course I know different...I would say to any who are diabetic test your BG irrespective of your GP's or DSN's opinion...at diagnosis my BG level was 17.4 (no HbA1c breakdown)...now I have an average of 5.6...I tested frequently in my first year...I still test everyday but at least 40% less...I have testing strips on prescription...I challenged my local CCG's refusal to allow my GP practice to prescribe them for me...largely T2's not dependant on hypoglycaemic medication are refused testing strips on prescription...it was hard work but worthwhile...now I have a repeat script for them...I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.
 
We should have a fingers crossed emoticon any way I am keeping my fingers crossed for you good luck.

John she struggled and could not get a drop of blood from me so she booked me in later this month with phlebotomist

I don’t have very obvious veins
 
Part of the problem for me is the apathy I have encountered among my HCP team & other 'professionals'...initially I assumed all I need do was take the pills as directed...things would improve...my GP wasn't overly concerned why should I be?...this is how I started...now of course I know different...I would say to any who are diabetic test your BG irrespective of your GP's or DSN's opinion...at diagnosis my BG level was 17.4 (no HbA1c breakdown)...now I have an average of 5.6...I tested frequently in my first year...I still test everyday but at least 40% less...I have testing strips on prescription...I challenged my local CCG's refusal to allow my GP practice to prescribe them for me...largely T2's not dependant on hypoglycaemic medication are refused testing strips on prescription...it was hard work but worthwhile...now I have a repeat script for them...I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.
@Bubbsie I admire your tenacity. In one sense my Dr/Dn are/were the same. They just left me to get on with it from the get go and really don't care how I am doing what I am doing. They just record the numbers and so long as those stay where they are I can do what I want. Outside of this forum I have never met or spoken to any other diabetic so I have no idea what the HCPs in my area do. The only clue is from a comment made by DN as I was leaving after last review "I wish all my patients were as clued up as you. My job would be so easy" Frightening:arghh::arghh:
 
.I challenged my local CCG's refusal to allow my GP practice to prescribe them for me...largely T2's not dependant on hypoglycaemic medication are refused testing strips on prescription...it was hard work but worthwhile...now I have a repeat script for them...I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.[/QUOTE]




Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....
 
OK here we go :D

Latest Results from my DN visit earlier today.

HbA1c is 29 (4.8%) - up a little as expected because of weight stabilisation but I'm pretty happy, it was 27 last time :)

total cholesterol - 4.6 mmol/L
Triglycerides - 0.6
HDL - 1.4
Calculated LDL - 2.9
Non HDL cholesterol 3.2

Sodium/Potassium/Urea/Creatinine all within normal range.
Chloride was 109 showing high against the range 95-108 but, given the other results, the nurse says not worrying because probably a touch of dehydration after fasting.
eGFR >90 (normal)

All toes suitably ticklish ;)

weight 68.2Kg fully dressed.

BP 110/72

Nurse was very pleased and says she wished she had more like me :hilarious: apparently I'm an inspiration.:singing:

I hadn't seen this particular nurse before and we had a good conversation about me doing LCHF and the benefits, she asked intelligent questions and seemed fairly open to the idea.

I'm really pleased I've managed to keep my weight and BG fairly stable and managed to push my HDL up a bit. Couldn't have done it without LCHF and the support of you friendly people, so thank you all :)

That's 2 years of non diabetic HbA1c's, so in celebration I'll change my description to 'in remission'
Just a urine sample to provide now. Next test in 6 months.
 
.I challenged my local CCG's refusal to allow my GP practice to prescribe them for me...largely T2's not dependant on hypoglycaemic medication are refused testing strips on prescription...it was hard work but worthwhile...now I have a repeat script for them...I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.

Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....[/QUOTE]
My only reservation here would be that I don't think they honestly know what to advise as the best way to deal with this condition. All the textbooks and experience suggests deterioration is inevitable but that is probably largely due to doing the opposite of what most here do/have done. Most of us would look askance at an HCP who said "frankly, I haven't got a scooby what is best" This may well be a case of honesty not being the best policy for the majority. This forum is not a representative sample of diabetics IMHO
 
.I challenged my local CCG's refusal to allow my GP practice to prescribe them for me...largely T2's not dependant on hypoglycaemic medication are refused testing strips on prescription...it was hard work but worthwhile...now I have a repeat script for them...I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.




Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....[/QUOTE]
My GP was happy to prescribe them Orson...he warned me the local CCG would intervene...were likely to stop him...we had a full discussion...then both agreed I should write to them...challenge their usual stance...so I did...I digested the minutes of my local CCG' s meeting on the T2 testing strips issue...their interpretation of the NICE guidelines on SMBG & T2's ( which was just plain wrong)...so on that basis & my results it would have been very difficult for them to say no...I challenged on a point of principle...those of us that want to test & make good use of that information should have some investment from our HCP's...many cannot afford the strips but want to test...it's makes sense socially & economically...if the CCG's will not listen to common sense & reason they should be challenged...I'd encourage more to do likewise.
 
:woot:
OK here we go :D

Latest Results from my DN visit earlier today.

HbA1c is 29 (4.8%) - up a little as expected because of weight stabilisation but I'm pretty happy, it was 27 last time :)

total cholesterol - 4.6 mmol/L
Triglycerides - 0.6
HDL - 1.4
Calculated LDL - 2.9
Non HDL cholesterol 3.2

Sodium/Potassium/Urea/Creatinine all within normal range.
Chloride was 109 showing high against the range 95-108 but, given the other results, the nurse says not worrying because probably a touch of dehydration after fasting.
eGFR >90 (normal)

All toes suitably ticklish ;)

weight 68.2Kg fully dressed.

BP 110/72

Nurse was very pleased and says she wished she had more like me :hilarious: apparently I'm an inspiration.:singing:

I hadn't seen this particular nurse before and we had a good conversation about me doing LCHF and the benefits, she asked intelligent questions and seemed fairly open to the idea.

I'm really pleased I've managed to keep my weight and BG fairly stable and managed to push my HDL up a bit. Couldn't have done it without LCHF and the support of you friendly people, so thank you all :)

That's 2 years of non diabetic HbA1c's, so in celebration I'll change my description to 'in remission'
Just a urine sample to provide now. Next test in 6 months.
@geefull Inspiration totally undersells your achievements but I am not wordsmith enough to coin the apposite phrase. Legend, intergalactic megastar or just Geeful the great?:woot::woot::woot::woot:
 
John she struggled and could not get a drop of blood from me so she booked me in later this month with phlebotomist

I don’t have very obvious veins
Yes I know what you mean my veins or somewhat collapsed so it is often difficult to get blood from them I often end up like a pin cushion from all the abortive attempts to draw blood.
 
Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....
My only reservation here would be that I don't think they honestly know what to advise as the best way to deal with this condition. All the textbooks and experience suggests deterioration is inevitable but that is probably largely due to doing the opposite of what most here do/have done. Most of us would look askance at an HCP who said "frankly, I haven't got a scooby what is best" This may well be a case of honesty not being the best policy for the majority. This forum is not a representative sample of diabetics IMHO[/QUOTE]
 
Back
Top