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Which Bread?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by Yerusha, Sep 11, 2015.

  1. Lee Riley

    Lee Riley Type 1 · Member

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    Accu-Chek Mobile would be great, if it didn't force you to use all strips within a month. If you don't use them, the meter will not read them.
     
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  2. uart

    uart Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info FloraD. I really wish we had those in Australia! Sounds really good. :)

    Oh well, they say Lidl is coming to Aus soon. I'll definitely be looking out for these if they do.
     
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    uart Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking about trying to make my own bread along similar lines to this as well Derek, The real killer as far as sourcing ingredients go is the wheat protein (gluten). So far what I've been able to find is ridiculously expensive, about 50 times the price of the equiv amount of ordinary flour. Seriously no exaggeration 50x, as in $25 (inc postage) for a quantity similar to 50 cents worth of plain flour. :(

    I can't wait for Lidl to open stores here in Australia now.
     
  4. MargaretR

    MargaretR Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Try using spelt or rye flour. Neither rises as well as wheat, but i can make decent spelt loaf in my bread maker that tastes good and doesn't spike me, even if it is nicely sunk in the middle! The flour isn't expensive and I can get it at the local supermarket.

    Margaret
     
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  5. Pura Vida

    Pura Vida Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    sounds good ! any idea how much carb per 100 gr ?
     
  6. Donnadoobie

    Donnadoobie Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Sainsbury do a good loaf called Hi-lo which is high in protein and low in carbs. 100g is 15.6 carbs and 10.2 fibre. Thus doesn't spike my blood sugars. The slices are quite small and it is expensive (£1.70) but generally lasts a few days. I am going to give spelt a go in the bread maker too
     
  7. Nigelh

    Nigelh Type 2 · Active Member

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    I make my own soda bread using wholemeal flour and a little candarel.. its smells orrid but tastes lovely with butter. I added dry roasted peanuts into my last one.. i like to experiment. Ive also successfully made a sugar free custard which looked orrid...but tasted fab.. ive yet to make something that looks good!
     
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    lessci Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Marks & Spencers do a spelt bread which is tasty, I can do 2 slices without a spike - but it is £1.30 for a small loaf
     
  9. Donnadoobie

    Donnadoobie Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Made my own spelt bread yesterday and was very hopeful. 5.3 before a slice with butter and 7.6 two hours later. I guess I won't be having that again.
     
  10. Pipey

    Pipey Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I make my own, and usually do half and half, but my favourite is Wessex Mills onion flour and I add sunflower seeds to it. I also buy their Rolled Porridge Oats. All my bread flour is Wessex Mill from Wantage.
     
  11. Celeriac

    Celeriac Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Bread spikes me and I don't love bread enough to suffer it.

    My husband really loves bread, but has NCGS so no wheat or gluten in the house now. I don't want to tempt him into eating something that will make him ill.

    Fortunately for him, Warburtons has come up with the Newburn Bakehouse gluten-free range including a sourdough and he falls on the Ocado delivery with the same kind of lemme-at-it, that he had for Gail's olive bread.

    As yet, no-one has produced an organic gluten-free low carb bread but who knows, it may happen.

    I don't see bread as an integral part of a healthy diet however. I've read 'Wheat Belly' by Dr William Davis M.D., 'Grain Brain' by Dr David Perlmutter M.D. and 'Serve to Win' by Novak Djokovic.
     
  12. Evelynross

    Evelynross Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I carefully slice a protein roll into four sheaves, across with a sharp bread knife, works out at 2-3G carbs
     
  13. emineedwards

    emineedwards Type 2 · Member

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    I agree the LC/HF diet is far better for you
     
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  14. Cl1ve

    Cl1ve Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi . Have you tried livlife bread it is only about 3.4 carbs per slice after taking of the fibre and it tastes ok to
    I get mine from waitrose
     
  15. CharmaineOli4

    CharmaineOli4 Type 2 · Active Member

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    My diabetic coach advised me to eat only low GI breads
     
  16. sunn49

    sunn49 Type 2 · Member

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    hi, my advise to you is to get your gp putting you on diabetes education course. this will give you a clear information on diabetic, what you can eat & whats good for you. its the only way to fully understand, get the grip of it & live a normal life again.
    like you, i was concerned & confused but my gp had asked me if im interested on going to the course. it was the best decision ive ever made, its a 3 days courses but well worth it. id highly recommended! by the end of the course you wish you knew about the course when you were prediabetes. you could easily reverse back by knowing what to eat with healthy diet.

    to put your mind at rest, you can eat pretty much everything but with the right portions & how many calories intake per day. from the course you will learn all that.

    with that, all youll need to do is to make sure that whatever you eat, you dont exceed the daily recommendations as below:
    Calories: 2000kcal
    Total fat: 70g
    Saturates: 20g
    Total Carbs: 260g
    Sugars: 90g
    Protein: 50g
    Salt: 6g

    this is your allowances to eat per day. to understand fully in depth, i highly recommend you to get your gp putting you on dietitian course or youd never be overcome your worries. good luck!
     
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  17. hankjam

    hankjam Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty **** sure this would get my HbA1c back through the roof to the bad old days... so much so there is no chance I would even risk it.

    I take it you're new in these parts. Could I ask how long you have been eating to this and what your BG's are?
    In fact, what's your DB situation?
    Cheers
     
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    bmorgen · Active Member

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    >I take it you're new in these parts.

    Clearly! LOL. 260g is way more than I could handle without a drip-feed of insulin! ;-)

    I manage bread in 2 ways. Firstly, those brick-like German breads, such as pumpernickel, are 100% whole-grain with minimal milling of the grain. This seems to significantly slow sugar absorption and so they are low GL even though high in carbs. I cut one slice in half and eat both as my bread portion. They toast nicely. But this is the only kind of off-the-shelf bread I can eat safely.

    The other thing I do is bake my own bread from scratch. This in itself doesn't help but I can control what goes into the bread. I use 20% oat bran and a very high-protein wheat flour (both white and stoneground bread flour). 2 thin slices of this low GI bread is fine for my post-prandial BG. The taste of homemade bread is unbeatable.
    Another option on the homemade front is Irish Soda Bread which I make with 20% oat bran and 10% whole oat flakes and flax seeds. The balance is brown bread flour. This is much more bread-like than the German bricks and is great for sandwiches and toast.

    These high-fibre, high-protein breads are not a panacea. You can't eat unlimited amounts. Portion control is still key but you may find you can manage larger, more satisfying portions of these compared to regular shop bread. Your mileage may vary so TEST TEST TEST!
     
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  19. hh1

    hh1 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Whoa! 260g carbs a day? I'm Type 1, 30 years, working with lower carb (nothing like as strict as some on this forum, through my own choice) over the past year, but even when, years ago, I wasn't, I never approached this quantity of carbs. I'm lucky enough not to have spikes from bread, though even so I never eat more than one slice at a meal, eg lunch. You mention 'right portions' - sounds to me as if some of those portions of carbs must be pretty large!
     
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  20. Donnadoobie

    Donnadoobie Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    I'm only prediabetic and stick to around 30-50g per day, usually under 30.
     
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