yes yes that is exactly what i meant--too much insulin in the body from insulin resistance & then told to inject more insulin to get glucose readings down --so is it better to not add extra insulin by needle, when one is not taking up the insulin that we produce in our bodies in the first place---or is it better..now iv'e forgotten my train of thought...why do they tell us to take more insulin if we are already resisting it, someone said more is needed to overcome resistance, how can this be? does two wrongs make a right... at least if my glucose is too high i can run around to help bring it down--but if i am building too much insulin up, isn't that worse? why is this so bloody confusing and why are there different opinions on this issue, very frustrating indeed...p.s. not so much worried about hypos--i wish no, just any damage from too much insulin..the_anticarb said:Did you mean too much insulin causing a hypo, or too much insulin in a body with insulin resistance, so there is lots of insulin around but it is not doing it's job properly, ie not causing hypos but still an excessive amount in the blood. That's not good either.
....what came first the chicken or the egg? if excess weight esp belly fat helps to make us insulin resistant, and yet , if insulin is known to make us gain weight. then logically, to me at least-shouldn't less insulin help to lose weight/belly fat etc. and make us less insulin resistant thereby needing less insulin in the long run, note i'm not talking about getting glucose down at this point-just the insulin/weight/resistance issue, which in the long run should get glucose levels down, perhaps i am gazing at my navel to much /to much acid years ago, but it makes sense or does it not.?whompa73 said:I think realy the question needing asking is what are the detrimental effects of insulin on the body . And if someone is insulin resistant can damage be caused by excess insulin in the blood streem and if so what damage can be caused ( not including hopos and associated problems) I think she is also trying to understand why when there is a glut of insulin in the body of spmeone insulin resistant when they are running high does the introductin of injected insulin have the capability to bring sugars down? Firstly I know not the harmfull efects of insulin (appart from weight gain) but will google them. Secondly although insulin resistance means that we do respond to insulin but it takes far more to do the job and usualy by the time we have very high bgs or need injected insulin our pancreases have basicaly started to burn out and cant produce either enough or poor quality insulin so extra is needed to cope. Howeve injectin and bringing down bgs means the body produces less insulin and can bring down overall insulin levels and may also give the pancreas a rest enpugh to help repair and produce better quality insulin again although a low carb diet and exercise will be needed as may basol insulin or even bolus but at a reduced rate. I can ensure you that running hihg for a long time not only makes youmfeel very ill but also does the kind of damage that you dont want happening eg kidney, liver , hart damage, remember one is a cure for the other if properly administered . They would not do it unless it was the lesser of the two evils
Sula said:Perhaps diabetics are far too hard on themselves and could ease up and just see how it goes?