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Why won't the NHS tell you the secret to treating diabetes?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by hyponilla, Nov 22, 2020.

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  1. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    Ages.135m 8.7; 150m 7.9 150m 9.9 165m 8.1 3h (180m) 9.1 185 m10.5 !!! 210m 9.4
     
  2. hankjam

    hankjam Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest that you don't repeat this anytime soon until there is clearer evidence of control in your routine testing.
     
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  3. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Do you now think it might be worth following some of the advice from the people who have been trying to help you?
     
  4. Ronancastled

    Ronancastled Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Tannith
    That 75g glucose test is a severe challenge to your pancreas & insulin sensitivity.
    As you probably now realise it's nothing like 75gs of carbs in "normal" food.

    I wonder if you'd be better using your meter to establishing a baseline after eating a set meal.
    Try with a fry with a single slice of toast.
    Test before eating (morning fasting) & test 2 hours afterwards, look for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/L & ideally below 7.8.
    Repeat with small amounts of carbs for lunch & dinner.
    Your meter will soon tell you what your body can tolerate & then you know where you stand.
     
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  5. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    @Tannith - were/are your strips in date, and did you wash, or clean in any way your hands, after taking the glucose drink? Those numbers are high for so long. I wonder if your finger or fingers were contaminated?
     
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  6. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    Good point. Thank you.
     
  7. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    I'll give it a little while as apart from anything else it's such a faff and also uses a lot of strips. Also there is no point until I've given the diet a chance to see if it's working or not. It worked last time but I now know I didn't give it long enough as the doctor and her print-out both told me I was no longer diabetic. In fact I was welll into pre diabetic when I stopped and didn't give it a chance. NHS sets the bar too high IMO.
     
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  8. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    This result actually suggest that this would be the pattern with every carb laden meal... there is inadequate 1st phase AND 2nd phase insulin to deal with fast acting carbs... that's why a flash glucose meter provides a lot of useful insight with regards to post meal glucose spikes etc.
     
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  9. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    This week's FBG results: Fri 6.1;Sat 4.7; Sun 4.9; Mon 4.8 Tue 4.8; Wed 4.9; Thur 5.3
     
  10. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    How many calories a day have you been having since starting this new diet?
     
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  11. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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  12. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    Are the figures for fasting blood levels you quote lower since starting your new diet?
     
  13. Tannith

    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but not massively
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    That would indicate that it's not just the calories, but the carb amount too. Do you know how many carbs you are eating, roughly?
     
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    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    No
     
  16. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    would you mind sharing perhaps 3 days of what you eat and drink please?
     
  17. Tannith

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    breakfast 2xtea + semi skimmed milk; lunch 75g (raw) basmati, half tin ratatouille , butternut squash steamed, pork medallion roasted. Teatime 150ml orange juice. I have had same every day for last 3 days. Then supper half can fruit cocktail OR large helping stewed dried apricots with 3 tbs ff greek yoghurt OR same but no yoghurt. Occasional drink sugar free orangeade.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    That means your diet is mostly carbs.
     
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    If you would test before you meals and two hours after you would see what all those carbs do to your BG.
     
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  20. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    That would kill me off in no time at all, I'm sure. All that starch and sugar is exactly what I can't cope with.
     
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