Yes, I've seen more posts from men doing weightlifting, HIIT and such and being very successful. Might be a mix of weight loss, extreme low carb diet/IF and gaining some muscle?? Makes sense that it's not just one miraculous thing that will reverse diabetes, but a combination of things..
I might have been one of the posters you are referring to. I wish I had fully documented my protocols, as I threw the kitchen sink at diabetes. What I did to start with was eat lower glycemic index carbs (home made soda bread, sweet potato), vegetables, lots of nuts and built up to extreme exercise - this was exhausting and after say a 3 mile walk, I would need something to eat. I would say my exercise was circa 750 to 900 calories a day 6 days a week; I was encouraged due to the massive swings from around 8 mmol to late 4's (mainly static cycle (2 x 30 mins a day at 90 revs per minute), this is still the exercise that makes me sweat the most, and I associated sweat with progress). This regime got me 10 kg weight loss, as I was thin-ish on the outside, fat on the in, and resulted in 41 / 42 HbA1c's - just in the normal range (on Metformin also).Yes, I've seen more posts from men doing weightlifting, HIIT and such and being very successful. Might be a mix of weight loss, extreme low carb diet/IF and gaining some muscle?? Makes sense that it's not just one miraculous thing that will reverse diabetes, but a combination of things..
I might have been one of the posters you are referring to. I wish I had fully documented my protocols, as I threw the kitchen sink at diabetes. What I did to start with was eat lower glycemic index carbs (home made soda bread, sweet potato), vegetables, lots of nuts and built up to extreme exercise - this was exhausting and after say a 3 mile walk, I would need something to eat. I would say my exercise was circa 750 to 900 calories a day 6 days a week; I was encouraged due to the massive swings from around 8 mmol to late 4's (mainly static cycle (2 x 30 mins a day at 90 revs per minute), this is still the exercise that makes me sweat the most, and I associated sweat with progress). This regime got me 10 kg weight loss, as I was thin-ish on the outside, fat on the in, and resulted in 41 / 42 HbA1c's - just in the normal range (on Metformin also).
The "cream" on top for me was to move to LCHF, which has yielded a more comfortable for me 35 / 36 HbA1c and a further 2 kg weight loss (now added a kilo due to additional weight training). I do not subscribe to extreme high fat of slavering my food in good fats, it is just the fact that "we" cook with either olive oil, butter or coconut oil, and eat avocados and nuts whilst reducing the usual higher carb foods. I think it is a shame that LCHF is associated with high protein Atkins 1.
Many get great results with just diet, it is said that potential reversal is 80% diet (I agree with this), I think the after-burn of exercising is a free hit on diabetes and assists with well being. Fasting is great, today I only had one meal by accident due to being at a client site for longer than I envisaged and I was not hungry.
Even though I do eat all the fat that I want, I must agree with you that an Atkins style diet is not for me either. I like my vegies too much and really don't eat much fat, just more than I used to and without guilt. I suppose it makes sense as you get fitter and more healthy everything works better on the inside as well. I wonder if you can tell a reversed diabetes by the average FBG?? Can I ask what your average FBG is now? And if you remember, before, please! My HbA1c is 35 as well now, but my FBG is never lower than 5.6 and I'm definitely not cured yet.I might have been one of the posters you are referring to. I wish I had fully documented my protocols, as I threw the kitchen sink at diabetes. What I did to start with was eat lower glycemic index carbs (home made soda bread, sweet potato), vegetables, lots of nuts and built up to extreme exercise - this was exhausting and after say a 3 mile walk, I would need something to eat. I would say my exercise was circa 750 to 900 calories a day 6 days a week; I was encouraged due to the massive swings from around 8 mmol to late 4's (mainly static cycle (2 x 30 mins a day at 90 revs per minute), this is still the exercise that makes me sweat the most, and I associated sweat with progress). This regime got me 10 kg weight loss, as I was thin-ish on the outside, fat on the in, and resulted in 41 / 42 HbA1c's - just in the normal range (on Metformin also).
The "cream" on top for me was to move to LCHF, which has yielded a more comfortable for me 35 / 36 HbA1c and a further 2 kg weight loss (now added a kilo due to additional weight training). I do not subscribe to extreme high fat of slavering my food in good fats, it is just the fact that "we" cook with either olive oil, butter or coconut oil, and eat avocados and nuts whilst reducing the usual higher carb foods. I think it is a shame that LCHF is associated with high protein Atkins 1.
Many get great results with just diet, it is said that potential reversal is 80% diet (I agree with this), I think the after-burn of exercising is a free hit on diabetes and assists with well being. Fasting is great, today I only had one meal by accident due to being at a client site for longer than I envisaged and I was not hungry.
Even though I do eat all the fat that I want, I must agree with you that an Atkins style diet is not for me either. I like my vegies too much and really don't eat much fat, just more than I used to and without guilt. I suppose it makes sense as you get fitter and more healthy everything works better on the inside as well. I wonder if you can tell a reversed diabetes by the average FBG?? Can I ask what your average FBG is now? And if you remember, before, please! My HbA1c is 35 as well now, but my FBG is never lower than 5.6 and I'm definitely not cured yet.
The closest I got to testing a carb heavy meal was on Sunday. I had breakfast usual nuts, berries and full fat yogurt. A low carb fish dinner, followed by a third of a Waitrose apple pie (around 90 grams of carbs):Fully reversed?
Have you measured after a carb heavy meal?
I agree on the exercise though, I always aim to exercise to get my heartrate past 150 now in a session.
(steady 60 normally)
Well, I'm just trying to figure out if there's any correlation between normal response to high carb and low FBG. I've noticed other posts, more men, quoting FBG in the 4's and claiming reversal. Makes sense your FBG is lower if your response to a high carb meal is normal ?? And isn't it very late in the UK now ??It's one of the things, what do you believe you fasting BG should be to be normal?
Although the real test, is do you have a normal response to a high carb meal?
Even though I do eat all the fat that I want, I must agree with you that an Atkins style diet is not for me either. I like my vegies too much and really don't eat much fat, just more than I used to and without guilt. I suppose it makes sense as you get fitter and more healthy everything works better on the inside as well. I wonder if you can tell a reversed diabetes by the average FBG?? Can I ask what your average FBG is now? And if you remember, before, please! My HbA1c is 35 as well now, but my FBG is never lower than 5.6 and I'm definitely not cured yet.
Well, I'm just trying to figure out if there's any correlation between normal response to high carb and low FBG. I've noticed other posts, more men, quoting FBG in the 4's and claiming reversal. Makes sense your FBG is lower if your response to a high carb meal is normal ?? And isn't it very late in the UK now ??
Fasting is really efficient, but can be hard if you have to cook for others. Low carb, not too much fat is also really good for weightloss. Don't give upI may have to try this - my weight loss seems to have stopped - BMI at 26.5 now but HBAC1 is still 50-52. Bah humbug!
It's one of the things, what do you believe you fasting BG should be to be normal?
Although the real test, is do you have a normal response to a high carb meal?
what is a normal repsonse to a high carb meal ????
I'm good with these.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
then I am better than non-diabetics now... hmmmmm
In addition to Newcastle extended low calorie approach, you can also consider Dr Valter Longo's research on FMD cycles.
If his hypothesis of cells regeneration is workable, then it would most likely have observable/measurable results for those who are in the prediabetic stage...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/fasting-mimicking-diet-promotes-ngn3-driven-β-cell-regeneration-to-reverse-diabetes.116847/
This is very interesting, couldn't actually connect to the site, might be the bad internet connection here, but I'm currently eating a low protein, low sugar (carbs) diet in my fast. I suppose I can repeat this 5-6 times over the next 6 months. Does it say how long the FMD cycles are? Thanks for the info, very much appreciatedIn addition to Newcastle extended low calorie approach, you can also consider Dr Valter Longo's research on FMD cycles.
If his hypothesis of cells regeneration is workable, then it would most likely have observable/measurable results for those who are in the prediabetic stage...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/fasting-mimicking-diet-promotes-ngn3-driven-β-cell-regeneration-to-reverse-diabetes.116847/
Does it say how long the FMD cycles are?
A third study was done using people. There were nineteen FMD participants and nineteen control participants with a broad range of ages represented (19-75). There were members of both sexes and most races, so that the study represented a general cross section of adult population. The individuals in the Fasting Mimicking Diet group were provided with the food they were required to eat during five FMD days for each of three months. Scientists were pleased with the level of compliance with the diet, and most reported only mild or no negative effects on the fasting days. Results showed that the FMD participants experienced an average 3% reduction in weight, a reduction in visceral fat, a reduction in C-reactive protein, and rejuvenation for the immune system.
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