What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

DJC3

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.
 

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Well, an interesting read.
My GP gave me the simplest explanation for controlling blood sugars:
Your insulin has to be shared between all the cells in your body.
The fewer the cells, the more insulin each cell gets.
So - the lighter your body - the better the blood sugars.

A bit simplistic but simple explanations that give a visual representation are usually the best and basically, what enables us to shed cells is sorting out a WOE that works and increasing movement.

What you are doing is clearly working for you - happy days (overall - with some fed up bits chucked in to remind you that you are human).

That sounds interesting denelm. But I thought our cells were insulin resistant and that that was why the glucose levels were so high. I’m getting confused. Help!
 

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.
Hope Moorfileds goes well. Not good but speedy referral and treatment should mean less time to "dwell" on it.
 

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Daughter’s appt was pretty inconclusive, a locum doctor and a load more tests ordered but no attempt to bring hospital appt and colonoscopy forward ( it’s not til Oct.
I thought issues like this were put on a pathway where there are strict time limits...I wonder if it's worth asking what the time frame should be?...how frustrating for you all.
 

HarryBeau

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egards offering meters on dx she said it would be too costly.
As we know not in the long term Pm...how short sighted many of our HCP's are we all know how debilitating diabetic complications are and of course how costly they are in addition to the psychological/societal damage they cause...the positive effect of testing our BG's should be recognised & offered on prescription to those who want to test.
 

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.
Hugs for your day x
 
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@gennepher back home and have had time to read your earlier post about the success you have had eating your day’s food in the first half of the day. It is very interesting and inspiring to others to try and tweak our habits of eating as required. I am lucky that if I eat the right (for me) food in the right quantities at traditional times I seem to manage ok (for now). However you have illustrated how improvements are possible from changing up what and when we eat. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you.
I still have tweaking to do but I am confident some of the clue is to eating at the right times of day.

I read your post about your new DN and her mother. I cannot imagine feeling hungry. I never feel hungry eating this way.

Sounds though you have a reasonable DN.

>^..^<
 

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.
Sorry for the urgent referral but you are going to the best eye hospital possible and hopefully it wont be serious or too stressful. Sending hugs, have lots of rest after.
 
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As we know not in the long term Pm...how short sighted many of our HCP's are we all know how debilitating diabetic complications are and of course how costly they are in addition to the psychological/societal damage they cause...the positive effect of testing our BG's should be recognised & offered on prescription to those who want to test.
Completely agree but she is cheerful and open (so far) and tbh its not in her remit to decide on issuing meters to all. I think she might be more encouraging to newly dx people than most and that can only be good.
 

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Thank you.
I still have tweaking to do but I am confident some of the clue is to eating at the right times of day.

I read your post about your new DN and her mother. I cannot imagine feeling hungry. I never feel hungry eating this way.

Sounds though you have a reasonable DN.

>^..^<
I rarely feel hungry also and if I am now I just eat 1 or 2 teasp peanut butter from the jar (nothing to spread it on anymore lol) and that fixes it. I am miserable if I am hungry.
 

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Morning All. 6.0 today, odd day yesterday, very tired all day, didnt eat lunchtime on.
@DJC3 good luck to you today and especially tomo. Also best wishes to your daughter with her consultation. @pavlosn hope the cold doesnt get too bad! @dunelm hope your mum arrives safely. @Bubbsie hope today isnt so hectic.
Havent had time yet to catch up properly. Off for my review with new DN in a minute.
Have a good Wed. Stay well, stay safe.

Mum arrived intact thank you and slept for the two and a half hour journey home.
 

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That sounds interesting denelm. But I thought our cells were insulin resistant and that that was why the glucose levels were so high. I’m getting confused. Help!
Please don’t get confused, it’s not my fault, nobody saw me, you can’t prove ... hang about!
OK, yes, but the visualisation of such a simple explanation can act as an aid to helping the bewildered, like myself, to drop a few pounds (I don’t do KG - must be special needs).
When I taught mathematics to the unteachable I used to ask them to draw a picture of what the numbers would end up like - seemed to work as many of them soon picked up Dy/Dx with ease. (I used to teach psychology and the history and philosophy of science as well but don’t tell anyone as I know nothing about either subject - or maths for that matter).
 

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.
Hope that works out well for you.
 
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good afternoon all :)

was 4.7 this morning.

Out all the first part of the day because of the car repairs, service and MOT, upside was a tasty 'eggs benedict' for breakfast (I binned most of the toasted muffin it was sitting on ;) ), downside of course is the bill.
It wasn't too bad, all things considered, even though we chose to replace all four tyres because we could get a considerable discount for buying four now rather than two now and two later and they would have needed replacing fairly soon.

@dunelm glad mum arrived safely :)
@DJC3 hope things go well, at least they are taking swift action.

Hope your day is treating you kindly :)
 

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That sounds interesting denelm. But I thought our cells were insulin resistant and that that was why the glucose levels were so high. I’m getting confused. Help!

My thoughts on this are similar. The fewer the cells, the more glucose each cell gets; the more the cells, the less glucose each one gets -- sounds like the same amount of glucose to me, just distributed differently.

I'm confused too.
 
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SaskiaKC

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It’s turning into a right old week. Optician is now sending me straight up to Moorfields eye hospital. The glittery halo in my left eye ( which was the reason I made the appt) might be retinal detachment and needs urgent attention. It’s definitely not the cancer spreading (she said that presents differently which is a relief ). Blooming heck! It’s all go here. Might not get to post again - more of those stinging drops gone in my eyes. I’ll check in tomorrow. Hope everyone else has a more peaceful day.

Hugs for the Moorfields visit and best wishes for a good result.
 

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fbg 7.3


An amazing downturn again.


Warning...this is a bit of a long post About what i think is the reason for this going down of my fbg (and my during the day numbers)...maybe make a coffee first if you want to read further.


I have been making more notes and stuff in my notebook. And trying to design a spreadsheet to help with what I want to make concise notes on. The spreadsheet has been developing for a week now. So I will draw the final copy out today on an A4 sheet of paper. It is a weekly spreadsheet. And I will photocopy it. I don't crunch data and do statistics, but I like a more visual way of seeing my data.


The main thing for this reduction in fbg ( and other daily numbers) appears to be by eating everything before midday. And absolutely nothing after midday. Not even a packet of pork scratchings, not even a piece of chocolate, not even a babybel cheese.


Depending on my day, whether I am at home or going out etc, determines when in the morning I eat the bulk of my food.


If I have to go out, and I am going out by myself then I eat the bulk of my morning food for breakfast. Maybe pop a babybel or two in my bag for midmorning.


If I am going out to meet friends, then wherever we meet (it is usually in the morning, but not always), I have to make sure beforehand that I can choose the food I have decided is the best for my diabetes and blood sugar.


I am meeting friends tomorrow and they wanted the afternoon teas (all those cream cakes, and no I dont fancy them or even hanker for them, but it's at 2 pm), so there is absolutely nothing there for me, so I renegotiated with them and we have agreed to meet at 12:30. So I will have the roast lunch minus potatoes and they will have a coffee. Then at 2pm they can have their afternoon tea and I will have a pot of tea. it is in a location where any of us can wander off during the afternoon (it's a fabric and craft mills)to do a little shopping or look around. And I think it is better than everyone sitting round an afternoon tea afternoon finally getting bored, and possibly thinking thank goodness we can go home now (I know I do, and some people go silent for a bit and fidgety). This is the first time I have been assertive as this and stated my needs (I did initially say I wouldn't go so they could have their afternoon tea, but they said no we wil find a compromise). So I will be eating a wee bit later, but not so much that it will impact on my readings or GERD for an odd occasion. I will probably have a breakfast of scrambled eggs and cheese first thing.


I have also renegotiated with another friend who i meet for a meal about locations and time. I have come up with some new places which satisfies her need for browsing in shops. (I absolutely hate browsing in shops, especially clothes, she tries all this stuff on with no intention to buy, but we all have to compromise somewhere)


So, if I am at home for the day, then all my food is eaten before midday. Depending on how my body feels that day, then i will have the bulk of the morning's food at breakfast. Or two smaller meals before midday. Either way seems to work in stabilising blood sugars.


I do live on my own, only have to see to myself as regards food, so this is probably easier for me than most of you. You have families, partners, probably frequent family gatherings. It must be very hard. I just have to deal with myself and my own mindset, which can be nuisance at times, but if I am 'strict' with myself, at least at this stage, then I still have room for experimentation adding different foods, but still sticking to my before 12 noon rule of eating.


I have written this as record to myself, as well, for my journey in this.


Also I am losing weight on a daily basis by eating everything before noon.


I was eating the same amount of food before, but spreading further into the afternoon probably up to about 3 pm. And I was not losing any weight with that time window even if i didnt start to eat until 11am.


I don't understand how I can lose weight just by eating the same foods, but in an earlier time window, the morning, but that is what is happening.


Anything can change in diabetes. But I hope this way of eating continues for me.


I did read somewhere that when you get your blood sugar under control, then the weight will naturally fall off. I can't remember the exact explanation but it was something to do with the body using the sugar input more correctly (bad explanation, but best I can do).


Thank you for reading. I will go and make a coffee, and then come back and edit any mistakes or spelling mistakes or predictive text mistakes (predictive text can make a whole different story to what you are actually writing, and I am typing from a separate keyboard to my iPad with my eyes shut, a longer post is hard to write for me, strains my eyes).


So back in a bit to check.


Take care.


>^..^<

Your plans sound well thought out gennepher! Good luck with your bg battles
 

DJC3

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Just got back from the eye hosp and all is well. They said the vitreous humour is drying out with age (! Charming) and there’s a broken blood vessel at the back which is probably causing the halo. It should sort itself out. What a relief!!! Wasn’t expecting that today but feel so lucky to have been referred and sorted out so quickly. The NHS at its best!
Thank you everyone for your comments and good wishes @ianpspurs @Bubbsie @gennepher @PenguinMum @dunelm @Geeful @SaskiaKC