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COVID 2019 Comorbidity with Diabetes

Robinredbreast said:
7.30pm, BBC1, questions regarding the virus, Everything you should know ............
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I watched the programme, the questions from the public were varied and answers were given, so an informative 1/2 hour, with no panic mode either. So glad I watched it.
 
We live 80 miles north of Seattle, Washington. Our country's president, in his efforts to "drain the swamp", set the stage for the problems we're having in the US by not taking this threat seriously initially and moving quickly. He's taking action now, but it's going to take time to get everything needed into place.

This is the insanity we're coping with in the US...

"Seeking to undo everything that his predecessor had done, Trump dismantled the epidemic-fighting infrastructure the Obama administration had built up at the National Security Council and the Department of Homeland Security. One of John Bolton’s first acts upon becoming national security adviser in 2018 was to dismiss the NSC’s global health team led by Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, a widely respected public-health expert." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-response-shows-costs-having-chaos-president/

So we're running to catch up with meeting the needs out there.

Here's where we are now in Washington state - (the state and local governments here moved into action quickly and are doing an excellent job)...

https://q13fox.com/2020/03/02/king-county-reports-14-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-including-5-deaths/

It's scary. So long as this virus doesn't mutate, I think we're going to be okay.

My husband and I are following the news reports daily and are gearing up for sheltering in place if we need to. One of our son's is a firefighter just north of Seattle, and one of our grandchildren has asthma, so we're worried about him too. And the two times I've had the flu in recent years, I've almost been hospitalized due to "shortness of breath" issues - (I have reduced lung capacity) - but was determined not to and didn't. Luckily, I turned the corner quickly.

As luck would have it, I developed a mild sore throat early Sunday morning. It's not getting worse, or better. It's weird. Usually, when I get a throat infection, I'm absolutely miserable for three to four days, but not this time. Could be the coronavirus but I'll never know because those who are mildly ill are advised to stay home and not seek medical attention, which makes sense.

That said, my plan is to stay home for a week, longer if the symptoms don't completely remit, to insure there is no possibility of infecting anyone else. But it just feels weird sitting around the house doing nothing when I feel fine, other than having mild symptoms. I'm throwing down shot glasses of vitamin C dissolved in water throughout the day, and my husband is treating me with red light therapy, once in the morning, and once in the evening. Perhaps that's helping. Who knows. My husband is such a geek, and I love him for it. ;)
 
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Ironically, China will now impose quarantine on visitors from the following countries...
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kokhongw said:
Ironically, China will now impose quarantine on visitors from the following countries...
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Makes perfect sense to me., If as you put it, slightly ironic.

After going through all the trouble of cleaning house, why would you just let others who didn't take notice, just come in and put you back at square one ?
 
kokhongw said:
My thots as an armchair critic...

Track, screen, and quarantine the international inbound passengers that left Wuhan/Hubei/China before the lockdown.
Suspend large social/public gatherings. Encourage social distancing. Stay home if having flu symptoms.
Prep the frontline healthcare providers for infectious disease control.
Limits public visitations at hospitals wards/nursing homes etc where the vulnerable are.
Setup separate consultation area/hotline etc.
Ramp up test kits, test all hospitalized pneumonia/respiratory cases first, then distribute to the frontline primary care provider to improve detection at the community level to enable isolation.
And people should prep up food/essentials for two-four weeks to be ready for extended home quarantine.

If testing is not done at the community level, the spread would be too large to contain by the time it is finally detected...and resources will be quickly overwhelmed.

For some cities in South Korea, Italy, Iran, containment is likely no longer viable...and just over two weeks ago, they were not even on the radar...how many more cities will be caught in such a difficult situation?
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All good ideas but there needs to be a balance or people's lives could be seriously disrupted for no reason. Planning is something that can be done in advance but there needs to be a real threat before taking action. If cities had been shut down for SARS, MERS or even every year's new strain of flu, then a real threat wouldn't be taken seriously. For a sense of proportion remember that Tuberculosis is a global pandemic, killing someone approximately every 21 seconds — about 1.5 million in 2018 alone.
 
Robinredbreast said:
Hopefully at some stage, sooner rather than later, it will burn it's self out.

Tbh, I am not stocked up, but my daughter is getting a little worried, so tomorrow, I will need to get more food in and other provisions, just in case..................... hypo treatments and some gluten free too.
Stay safe :)
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Airing on.the side of caution as I am. Better to be safe.....
 
jjraak said:
most informative @Bill_St

and that above about the hand to face contact, , does makes you think when you consciously focus on that,
just how surfaces, we currently take for granted, MIGHT be touched by us on our travels...now would seem a good time to review and make a few little adjustment to our old habits i think.
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I was in a cafe yesterday writing to my auntie, needed the loo. Washed hands as instructed. Then thought 'now have to touch handle to exit!'. So new plan. Open door first, wash hands, exit.
 
Winnie53 said:
We live 80 miles north of Seattle, Washington. Our country's president, in his efforts to "drain the swamp", set the stage for the problems we're having in the US by not taking this threat seriously initially and moving quickly. He's taking action now, but it's going to take time to get everything needed into place.

This is the insanity we're coping with in the US...

"Seeking to undo everything that his predecessor had done, Trump dismantled the epidemic-fighting infrastructure the Obama administration had built up at the National Security Council and the Department of Homeland Security. One of John Bolton’s first acts upon becoming national security adviser in 2018 was to dismiss the NSC’s global health team led by Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, a widely respected public-health expert." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-response-shows-costs-having-chaos-president/

So we're running to catch up with meeting the needs out there.

Here's where we are now in Washington state - (the state and local governments here moved into action quickly and are doing an excellent job)...

https://q13fox.com/2020/03/02/king-county-reports-14-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-including-5-deaths/

It's scary. So long as this virus doesn't mutate, I think we're going to be okay.

My husband and I are following the news reports daily and are gearing up for sheltering in place if we need to. One of our son's is a firefighter just north of Seattle, and one of our grandchildren has asthma, so we're worried about him too. And the two times I've had the flu in recent years, I've almost been hospitalized due to "shortness of breath" issues - (I have reduced lung capacity) - but was determined not to and didn't. Luckily, I turned the corner quickly.

As luck would have it, I developed a mild sore throat early Sunday morning. It's not getting worse, or better. It's weird. Usually, when I get a throat infection, I'm absolutely miserable for three to four days, but not this time. Could be the coronavirus but I'll never know because those who are mildly ill are advised to stay home and not seek medical attention, which makes sense.

That said, my plan is to stay home for a week, longer if the symptoms don't completely remit, to insure there is no possibility of infecting anyone else. But it just feels weird sitting around the house doing nothing when I feel fine, other than having mild symptoms. I'm throwing down shot glasses of vitamin C dissolved in water throughout the day, and my husband is treating me with red light therapy, once in the morning, and once in the evening. Perhaps that's helping. Who knows. My husband is such a geek, and I love him for it. ;)
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The situation didn't sound good from that previous clip i posted, glad it seems to be moving in the right one now.
Best wishes @Winnie53 , let's hope all of your and in fact everyone there, gets the best advice and help to get past this.

we probably aren't there yet, but i hope it does come, where we do look around the world and see, we ARE all in this together.

We might all suffer, but we don't HAVE to be victims, if we ALL pull in the same direction
 
Debandez said:
I was in a cafe yesterday writing to my auntie, needed the loo. Washed hands as instructed. Then thought 'now have to touch handle to exit!'. So new plan. Open door first, wash hands, exit.
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same here last night @Debandez

out with daughter and nephew in the pub chewing the fat over this, as ya do.
nephew in loo, comes back says he washed hand to the national anthem..(did not know that )
as instructed..THEN had to open door..Doh.and then like you back in, and redid with door open, with foot..

Those are thing we need to look at , simple methods to help keep us all safe
a hand sanitiser gel dispenser in the bar area somewhere, would doubles up and keep everyone able to be as safe as possible.

Doing nothing is NOT an option. imo.
 
The Door Handle Dilemma is one that we should be considering every time we touch a public door handle, toilets or not, flu season, or not. It is eternal, until we all get Star Trek automatic doors fitted on every public building.

Just pull your sleeve down over your hand, or use the hem of your coat.
I've been doing this for years.

Anyone who wants further incentive, just take note of all the people who leave public toilets without even washing their hands, or who casually dip their fingers in the water from the tap and then walk off shaking the droplets off all over themselves, the walls, floor and other people...
 
For info I'm very active on Twitter at the moment. Speaking to a young man who is isolated in wuhan (@pray for wuhan). He has a young family. Shares videos of how they are passing their time. Keeping spirits up etc. The community are ordering food online with no issues. Although prices have risen he confirmed. They have been in lockdown over 1 month. The new cases have gone right down so working well.

Worrying looking at Italy stats but more so Irans and sth Korea! It took a grip within days. That said majority of cases mild. Many recovering well. Focusing on the positive.

Lots of info here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 
jjraak said:
same here last night @Debandez

out with daughter and nephew in the pub chewing the fat over this, as ya do.
nephew in loo, comes back says he washed hand to the national anthem..(did not know that )
as instructed..THEN had to open door..Doh.and then like you back in, and redid with door open, with foot..

Those are thing we need to look at , simple methods to help keep us all safe
a hand sanitiser gel dispenser in the bar area somewhere, would doubles up and keep everyone able to be as safe as possible.

Doing nothing is NOT an option. imo.
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Most of these ways of keeping us safe were part and parcel of life for those of us unlucky enough to be going through chemotherapy treatment. This lowers immunity considerably. I bulk bought hand sanitisers, which were dotted about the house including one in the porch for all visitors to use as a condition of entering. I had smaller bottles of it in my handbag for use when out and about, and still do this today. Door handles, light switches and taps were regularly wiped with antibacterial wipes.

Years ago we used to visit Egypt quite a bit. We were told that the paper bank notes were deadly and to wash our hands in alcohol of some sort after touching any bank note to reduce the risk of Pharaohs Revenge . This is something that is now being advised by the Government whenever we handle money.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Most of these ways of keeping us safe were part and parcel of life for those of us unlucky enough to be going through chemotherapy treatment. This lowers immunity considerably. I bulk bought hand sanitisers, which were dotted about the house including one in the porch for all visitors to use as a condition of entering. I had smaller bottles of it in my handbag for use when out and about, and still do this today. Door handles, light switches and taps were regularly wiped with antibacterial wipes.

Years ago we used to visit Egypt quite a bit. We were told that the paper bank notes were deadly and to wash our hands in alcohol of some sort after touching any bank note to reduce the risk of Pharaohs Revenge . This is something that is now being advised by the Government whenever we handle money.
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Good to see managed that ok ( i hope ?)

Interesting about the Pharaohs revenge

think many of us will have to up our game to your level, if we want any chance to shrink the impact of this on ourselves.
 
Interesting times ... I would not want to be working for an intenational airline.

Circuit breaker required ... fast. Imagine what the Spanish flu might have done in these days.
 
I am of to the hospital to see diabetic consultant this afternoon, hope no one is coughing but if they are they may just have a cold, hopefully it will be worth the visit I have lots to talk to her about I hope I get the right answers
 
Washing hands dilemma in toilet. I would never dry with anything but paper towel. Air blowers simply spread drops (and any virus). Don’t throw away paper towel immediately but use it to open the door.
 
In the US, we still have the option to use paper towels after washing our hands in public bathrooms. A trash can is often placed near the door so we can open the door with the paper towel, then dispose of it. Unfortunately, paper towel dispensers are beginning to be eliminated here too. Perhaps that is a bad idea.

This showed up in my email early this morning. In it, Dr. Peter Osborne discusses the benefits of taking NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) to enhance the immune systems ability to fight a viral infection, "The Flu Fighting Amino Acid (plus Coronavirus health tips)"...


I had some here at the house in case I got the flu again, but I gave it to my husband. He's going to go out to pick some up for me today.

Dr. Osborne provides additional recommendations here, "Protecting Yourself from Viral Outbreaks"...

www.glutenfreesociety.org/viral-outbreaks/

He also wrote an article, which can be read here... www.glutenfreesociety.org/how-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-outbreak/

I've followed his work for many years. He uses a function medicine approach with his patients.
 
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Indy51 said:
Unfortunately I'm at high risk because of a lung condition. The most annoying part for me is that it's seemingly impossible to buy masks in the expected outlets like pharmacies, at least in my area. All are out and have no idea when they'll be able to source more. Between the bushfires and now this virus, it's making life pretty scary. Would be nice if they'd kept some in reserve for people with conditions that depend on lung protection :rolleyes: [/ whinge]
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I don't want to sound stupid but could you buy the dust masks to give you a bit of protection at least ?
 
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