Covid/Coronavirus and diabetes - the numbers

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We went into lockdown and infection levels rose initially because people were confined in their homes and gave it to family members.

Are there any figures to back that up. I don't know many who have had covid19 but they all live(d) with their families and were the only ones in the family who caught the virus. A small sample proves very little but I think that when hypothesizing about infection levels rising because people were confined in their family homes it needs some proof.

I think we can say that withing a care home setting, this was very true. As for lockdown, it should have happened earlier.
 

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Not too difficult to translate from Spanish health website.
The rate per 100,000 of new cases makes it clear why some countries are being selected.
 

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The conclusion seems to be that they don't know why that is. Which is not very helpful but much better than assuming a reason and making it a big headline, which so often occurs in the media.

Pretty sure there will be multiple factors in play - not least that a lot of the people in vulnerable age groups have learned to socially distance while the youngsters take less care, are catching it more, yet far less likely to die. That has to impact the death rate significantly.

Its particularly telling how (in America, according to the article) the young cases rose, then the older cases and the deaths followed - because the youngsters were then infecting their older family members.
What a terrible burden to bear - knowing that you infected your granny, who then died.

I remember reading (somewhere) that there is a theory to (partially) explain why the death rate in India and Brazil do not compare with The US and the UK. The former have a much younger population, while the privileged West have a much older pop, with a lot more lingering ill health, polypharmery and so on. Of course, there is a lot less birth/death documentation and age tracking in Brazil and India, so precise numbers are simply unfeasible.

Plus, the whole question about how many are asymptomatic and passing it on completely unaware is a question that will never be answered.

but i agree with you, it is refreshing to read something that isn’t shouting in black and white sensationalist terms.
 

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It is not just the elderly who are being infected by the 20s & 30s.
The prevalence among 0-9 yr olds is considerably higher than that of 60,70 & 80yr olds, and that from symptomatic data.
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It is not just the elderly who are being infected by the 20s & 30s.
The prevalence among 0-9 yr olds is considerably higher than that of 60,70 & 80yr olds, and that from symptomatic data.
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You mean “testing positive” I guess as hospital admissions and deaths continue to fall..
2 deaths last week in SE England.. with COVID?
 

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You mean “testing positive” I guess as hospital admissions and deaths continue to fall..
2 deaths last week in SE England.. with COVID?
If they had a positive Covid test within the last 4 weeks yes - even if they died of something else!
 
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344 cases per million is 0.0004%

This number is so tiny it’s a rounding error. More chance of being hit by a meteor. Just saying.
 

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Yes. I think we are being prepared for further restrictions because we will never be able to get rid of this virus especially since it is seasonal and therefore when we don't have it the tropics and Southern hemisphere will. Please be aware of the huge cost of this fear both economically and in lives lost because the NHS became the National Covid Service.

Rather than bringing it to heel how about putting our very elderly or vulnerable somewhere safe it that is their choice, and not muzzle the rest of us and especially not our young. We need to learn to live with this and as dogs go its not the Rotweiller it is being made out to be.
As someone who’s ‘elderly’ but still has lots of life to enjoy, I strongly object to this Nicole! Where would we be ‘put’? Your suggestion has a nasty touch of the Orwellian dictator state.
 

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An interesting anecdote:
A US kidney specialist shared with a member of a forum I am on his views on the drug HQ?
Apparently most of his lupus patients were on HQ and had not been severely affected by Covid 19.
I hope someone is doing the tests on HQ+doxycycline+zinc taken in the early stages of Covid to see if alleviates the effects of this disease in the vulnerable.

Apparently a number of US doctors have written an open letter to the leading policy maker in the States on Covid.

The only testing of HQ I know of has been in the late stages of the disease.
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No video just letter, no suggestions about face masks, no suggestions about treating people in late stage disease, only early stage disease to stop its progression.

Why did they run tests of HQ in late stage disease in UK, it was not appropriate.
I hope it does work in early stage disease, if it doesn't, I'll not get steamed up about it. D.
You might find this thread interesting Derek
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/covid-19-out-patient-treatment.175412/
 
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