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Smoothies type 2

Sarahjane41

Sarahjane41

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Hello all

I'm new to this I've been pre diabetic for a few years but now I am type two, I've always struggled with my weight, I am on the weekly injections and metformin.

This is week 8 I weigh tomorrow and I've lost nearly 2 stone!!!!
I am kcal deficit, under 100g carbs and low fat and limit and count every gram of sugar.

I need snack and food ideas I'm obsessed with counting now!!! Do we have smoothies?? Are they filling if it's just berries and a drop of milk???

I'm avoiding bread this week as I'm bloated and suffering major constipation tmi sorry!!! I'm taking fybrogel but I dont want to relay on it!!!

Any help or advice will be awesome, bit of support would go a long way

thank you xxxx
 
Sarahjane41 said:
I'm avoiding bread this week
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I've avoided bread for the past 5 1/2 years..

You seem to be throwing everything at this and your weight loss is great but what are you going to do when you come off your restricted diet?

It might be better to take it a bit easier eat a bit more but cut carbs more too.
Low fat shouldn't be necessary and you are missing out on the satiety levels that it brings.

Speaking from my own personal experience cutting carbs to keto levels (sub 20g per day) combined with skipping breakfast (intermittent fasting) led to a sustainable weight loss without hunger which I have managed to maintain for years afterwards.
 
bulkbiker said:
I've avoided bread for the past 5 1/2 years..

You seem to be throwing everything at this and your weight loss is great but what are you going to do when you come off your restricted diet?

It might be better to take it a bit easier eat a bit more but cut carbs more too.
Low fat shouldn't be necessary and you are missing out on the satiety levels that it brings.

Speaking from my own personal experience cutting carbs to keto levels (sub 20g per day) combined with skipping breakfast (intermittent fasting) led to a sustainable weight loss without hunger which I have managed to maintain for years afterwards.
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I only have 2 meals a day, I have high bp too. I need to loose at least 10 stone aiming for 2 lbs a week and back swimming as I have osteoarthritis in my knees and hips so I have really bad mobility.
I have been looking at keto and trying to understand, I'm eatting tons of protien to fill me up, have you had or tried smoothies I'm just weighing up my options at the moment.
I know I need to find a healthy and sustainable diet or I'll cartwheel off the wagon and get fed up of all the counting lol, THANKS for replying
 
I was 273lbs at diagnosis & got down to 200lbs at 6 months by simply limiting carbs & 30 mins exercise per day.
I tried every diet under the sun until I was forced to go low carb, it was an enlightenment, like being the first person to discover something.

Smoothies, whether fruit or veg based could be risky in the carb department.
I would consult the low carb page on this forum first.

Good luck.
 
Hi @Sarahjane41 .

Great results so far

But it does get weary I guess.

Perhaps you don't want to hear this yet,
As you are doing so well
And maybe you are right to carry on for now, if it suits you

But I agree with @bulkbiker ,
Once you tire or the time ends, where do you go then


Maybe back to eating as you did..I hope not
Undoing all that great work, would be such a shame .

Maybe a less restrictive regime now might be more sustainable long term


I tried to be so good after DX..starving and lost a tiny bit of weight, but my HBA1c got worse

In desperation, I found here.

Couldn't really believe what I was hearing eat well AND lose weight AND get control of you Bag's.....non possiblé. :wideyed:


I read below so many signatures at the tale of lost weight & better levels..so I gave it a tentative first step...

3 months later on LCHF, lost 3 stone , dropped from a 40 waist to a 34 AND got HBA1c back to pre diabetic levels.

I never went keto.

But during all that time, I ate really well, rarely hungry

And if I'm honest never counted calories once,
And only had a ball park figure for my carb levels each meal.

It can be done, and has been done by so many on here.

I think your heading on the right track.
Two meals is about what I now have, tho one might be more of a snack some days

And filling up on the protein, helps.

Personally I'd skip the smoothies, and stick to the more solid versions for now .

Plenty of good advice on here, from those who have sat where you are now

Good luck finding your own road to a healthier you
 
I bought a Nutribullet just before diagnosis and soon found that smoothies of any kind resulted in a spike, so I would not recommend them.
These days I control my blood glucose in the normal range by eating low carb and I sorted out what I could eat using a glucose meter.
 
I make an avocado, coconut, whey protein smoothie that’s totally amazing, coconut / pumpkin smoothies are heavenly. High calories though, if you’re counting
 
Sarahjane41 said:
Hello all

I'm new to this I've been pre diabetic for a few years but now I am type two, I've always struggled with my weight, I am on the weekly injections and metformin.

This is week 8 I weigh tomorrow and I've lost nearly 2 stone!!!!
I am kcal deficit, under 100g carbs and low fat and limit and count every gram of sugar.

I need snack and food ideas I'm obsessed with counting now!!! Do we have smoothies?? Are they filling if it's just berries and a drop of milk???

I'm avoiding bread this week as I'm bloated and suffering major constipation tmi sorry!!! I'm taking fybrogel but I dont want to relay on it!!!

Any help or advice will be awesome, bit of support would go a long way

thank you xxxx
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Personally, I wouldn't touch a smoothy with a ten foot pole. And your diet seems a bit all over the place, which in the end could well end up harming you. My suggestion: read up on the various diets that are suitable for T2, pick one and test around meals (before the meal and 2 hours after the first bite) to see whether it agrees with you.

Sorry, I'm going a bit fast, I think. I'll start over.

First, smoothies: fibres slow down the uptake of carbohydrates. If you put those in a blender and liquefy whatever you put in it, carbs aren't slowed down; they get absorbed really, really fast, resulting in a spike. And spikes are to be avoided. Just figure it this way: real proper food always is preferable to processed foods. Put it in a blender and it's been more processed than it needs to be. If you want berries, just chuck them in some full fat greek yoghurt. Done.

And yes, that did say full fat. There's 3 macro-nutrients. Fats, carbohydrates and protein. T2's can't handle carbs properly, so you want to cut those down, or out. That leaves fats, which are a blood glucose flatline and very filling, and protein, which might up bloods a tiny, almost negligible bit, so those are fine too. If you cut out both carbs AND fats, that leaves only protein to get you what you need, nutrient-wise, and that's just not quite do-able. Malnourishment becomes likely. So pick a diet, try it for a while and see how your blood sugars do (like I said, test around meals, and aim for a rise of no more than 2.0 mmol/l, preferably less), and go from there. But honestly...? Embrace the bacon. It helps. https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/ for a little more info. You might want to look into dietdoctor.com as well, keto, carnivore, LC/HF and such. Just research and don't throw everything & the kitchen sink at it until you know what you're doing. Because right now I do think you're probably hurting yourself a little by cutting too much out all at once. You do need vitamins, minerals and basic fuel to live after all. ;)

Good luck!
Jo
 
JoKalsbeek said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch a smoothy with a ten foot pole. And your diet seems a bit all over the place, which in the end could well end up harming you. My suggestion: read up on the various diets that are suitable for T2, pick one and test around meals (before the meal and 2 hours after the first bite) to see whether it agrees with you.

Sorry, I'm going a bit fast, I think. I'll start over.

First, smoothies: fibres slow down the uptake of carbohydrates. If you put those in a blender and liquefy whatever you put in it, carbs aren't slowed down; they get absorbed really, really fast, resulting in a spike. And spikes are to be avoided. Just figure it this way: real proper food always is preferable to processed foods. Put it in a blender and it's been more processed than it needs to be. If you want berries, just chuck them in some full fat greek yoghurt. Done.

And yes, that did say full fat. There's 3 macro-nutrients. Fats, carbohydrates and protein. T2's can't handle carbs properly, so you want to cut those down, or out. That leaves fats, which are a blood glucose flatline and very filling, and protein, which might up bloods a tiny, almost negligible bit, so those are fine too. If you cut out both carbs AND fats, that leaves only protein to get you what you need, nutrient-wise, and that's just not quite do-able. Malnourishment becomes likely. So pick a diet, try it for a while and see how your blood sugars do (like I said, test around meals, and aim for a rise of no more than 2.0 mmol/l, preferably less), and go from there. But honestly...? Embrace the bacon. It helps. https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/ for a little more info. You might want to look into dietdoctor.com as well, keto, carnivore, LC/HF and such. Just research and don't throw everything & the kitchen sink at it until you know what you're doing. Because right now I do think you're probably hurting yourself a little by cutting too much out all at once. You do need vitamins, minerals and basic fuel to live after all. ;)

Good luck!
Jo
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You haven’t tried my smoothie, lol, no spike guarantee
 
LaoDan said:
You haven’t tried my smoothie, lol, no spike guarantee
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It does sound quite wonderful, but alas... Seems like coconut is out when you're kidney-stone prone, according to some sources anyway. (I could be wrong, I'm still learning).

Yeah, okay, so not ALL smoothies are out... Just a lot of them, haha.
 
I went low carb on diagnosis, but didn't count calories. I have very limited mobility so don't exercise. At diagnosis my triglycerides were high. I read the research on fats vs sugars and realised it would be fine to eat cheese, eggs, butter, oily salad dressings, full fat milk and double cream as long as I was no longer eating cakes, pastry, bread, etc.
So by cutting carbs, but eating more fat than I used to and probably more calories, I lost loads of weight and my blood fats improved.
I don't have smoothies - but have full fat greek yogurt with a few berries most days.
 
TriciaWs said:
I went low carb on diagnosis, but didn't count calories. I have very limited mobility so don't exercise. At diagnosis my triglycerides were high. I read the research on fats vs sugars and realised it would be fine to eat cheese, eggs, butter, oily salad dressings, full fat milk and double cream as long as I was no longer eating cakes, pastry, bread, etc.
So by cutting carbs, but eating more fat than I used to and probably more calories, I lost loads of weight and my blood fats improved.
I don't have smoothies - but have full fat greek yogurt with a few berries most days.
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Snap.

No one mentioned my cholesterol back in 2010
(I went back and checked all my stats after DX)
Trig up at 6 ..yikes.

8 years they trickled down using low carb to 2.6

In 6 months of LCHF, they more then halved to 1.2..win.

Edit : just to add the ratios went from high risk across the board up until DX, to normal/optimal using LCHF

All the proof I needed things were heading in the right direction

I'd go so far as to say, bloods and what the scores relate to, should be part of T2D #101.
 
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Sarahjane41 said:
I have been looking at keto and trying to understand, I'm eatting tons of protien to fill me up, have you had or tried smoothies I'm just weighing up my options at the moment.
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No I never use smoothies just eat real food, fresh prepped from single ingredients mainly meat.
I lost about 8 stone by going very low carb/keto and eating nothing in the mornings (just multiple coffees with double cream for satiety). My eating window is now between 4 and 5 hours but I do tend to eat quite a lot within that time frame.
 
I do have a smoothie every so often to pack in some nutrition and it does not spike my sugar too much (YMMV).
  • Mixed Berries
  • A few pieces of frozen banana (really for the taste but most people probably want to leave this out if it spikes you too much)
  • Avacado
  • Broccoli Sprouts
  • Kale/Chard/Spinach
  • Hydrolyzed Collagen Powder
  • Pea Protein Powder
  • Betroot
  • Lemon
 
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