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Thank you. I am trying very hard. Soon as the sickness goes I will b able to eat more sensibly. I just thought I had to eat something and wanted something I liked. I’m eating very few calories each day probably only 500 - 800. I am worrying this is not doing me any good either. I want to stop the metformin but it scares me seeing high numbers.
 
Thank you. I am trying very hard. Soon as the sickness goes I will b able to eat more sensibly. I just thought I had to eat something and wanted something I liked. I’m eating very few calories each day probably only 500 - 800. I am worrying this is not doing me any good either. I want to stop the metformin but it scares me seeing high numbers.
SuNuman should you be taking Metformin if you cannot eat? Surely it can't be good? Have you thought of stopping the metformin ... so the sickness goes, then you will be able to go all out low carb and drop your numbers dramatically?
 
SuNuman should you be taking Metformin if you cannot eat? Surely it can't be good? Have you thought of stopping the metformin ... so the sickness goes, then you will be able to go all out low carb and drop your numbers dramatically?
Yes this is what I want to do. I have to b brave and just do it. It’s an awful feeling - like morning sickness all day. Just scares me when my nurse said it protects your heart. I’m gonna give it a bit longer and hoping to see better numbers soon. I was in the late 5’s this morning which was fabulous. Just my 2 hrs post not good. Thanks Coby. X
 
Yes this is what I want to do. I have to b brave and just do it. It’s an awful feeling - like morning sickness all day. Just scares me when my nurse said it protects your heart. I’m gonna give it a bit longer and hoping to see better numbers soon. I was in the late 5’s this morning which was fabulous. Just my 2 hrs post not good. Thanks Coby. X
Low carb is not a calorie controlled lifestyle so (if you want to go down this path) do not manage your eating on the basis of calories. You have to unlearn all the "healthy eating" advice the health service and the media have been pushing at us for the last half century. I think your nurse is wrong and the advice is wrong. Low-carb is a much older method. You will not see "better numbers" if you continue to eat carbs. That's why your 2 hrs post is "not good". A very low calorie diet is inescapably also a low carb diet - the problem with low caloric is that you will feel hunger, your metabolism will slow and when you eventually can't take it anymore your gains will quickly vanish. In contrast you can eat low carb, not be hungry and see the "better numbers" almost instantly. At least, I did.
 
Yes this is what I want to do. I have to b brave and just do it. It’s an awful feeling - like morning sickness all day. Just scares me when my nurse said it protects your heart. I’m gonna give it a bit longer and hoping to see better numbers soon. I was in the late 5’s this morning which was fabulous. Just my 2 hrs post not good. Thanks Coby. X
I wonder what she is expecting to attack your heart.
When I was taking Metformin I could not even go downstairs on many days, and hardly left the house for a month - that is not healthy.
 
I wonder what she is expecting to attack your heart.
When I was taking Metformin I could not even go downstairs on many days, and hardly left the house for a month - that is not healthy.
An easy way to make me take it I’m guessing. X
 
Low carb is not a calorie controlled lifestyle so (if you want to go down this path) do not manage your eating on the basis of calories. You have to unlearn all the "healthy eating" advice the health service and the media have been pushing at us for the last half century. I think your nurse is wrong and the advice is wrong. Low-carb is a much older method. You will not see "better numbers" if you continue to eat carbs. That's why your 2 hrs post is "not good". A very low calorie diet is inescapably also a low carb diet - the problem with low caloric is that you will feel hunger, your metabolism will slow and when you eventually can't take it anymore your gains will quickly vanish. In contrast you can eat low carb, not be hungry and see the "better numbers" almost instantly. At least, I did.
 
I won’t feel hungry on these tablets believe me. X
 
I won’t feel hungry on these tablets believe me. X
Never, ever take metformin on an empty stomach, it makes it that much worse. You keep saying you want to feel better first and then you'll adjust your eating, but you're putting the cart before the horse now. Ditch the metformin for a little while, see whether you improve, and change your diet, better yesterday than tomorrow. One of the things metformin does is suppress appetite, and with you feeling sick all the time on top of that, of course you don't feel like eating anything!

Also, with your current calorie intake being so very low, you're essentially following a crash diet. One you can't even keep down! You're not doing your body any favours with this, not at all. Malnourishment will be knocking on your door soon, if you keep this up. Forget calories, focus on cutting carbs. I assure you you'll feel better in no time at all, no more feeling ill, no more high blood sugars, no more being in absolute misery.

I could do that nurse an injury for scaring you into taking that stuff, as I know all too well how you're feeling right now. I'm so sorry you're going through this. I know it's hard to take the word of total strangers online, but look at it this way... We've been there. And if we're lying or whatever, your meter will tell you, as will your currently miserable stomach. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain, if you just start as soon as possible. And if it sucks and the forum members, me included, are full of it? You'll know before the weekend is out, I'm pretty sure.

I didn't have this place when I started, I was my own guinea pig. My meter was my best friend and all the books I read, I just tried whatever they came up with that made sense. Dr. Jason Fung's The Diabetes Code was a real life saver. I was quite dehydrated from the metformin side effects, aside from the abdominal bleeding it caused, the gliclazide wasn't any better really, and I ditched both meds with my doc's okay, after she saw how much my blood sugars improved... I've been in the non-diabetic range about 3 months after diagnosis, and it would've been a lot sooner if I'd known about this forum, and would've had less trial and error. I'm 5 years down the road and my blood sugars are still beautiful. Actually, they're better than my best friend's, who isn't a diabetic! All that without puking my guts out or living in the toilet. I just eat proper, nutricious food. No calories counted, no meds required. Just carbs cut. And I'm not alone either, there's masses of us on here.

I know it's scary and confusing. I know I cried every night in my sleep when first diagnosed. But it can get so much better.
 
Never, ever take metformin on an empty stomach, it makes it that much worse. You keep saying you want to feel better first and then you'll adjust your eating, but you're putting the cart before the horse now. Ditch the metformin for a little while, see whether you improve, and change your diet, better yesterday than tomorrow. One of the things metformin does is suppress appetite, and with you feeling sick all the time on top of that, of course you don't feel like eating anything!

Also, with your current calorie intake being so very low, you're essentially following a crash diet. One you can't even keep down! You're not doing your body any favours with this, not at all. Malnourishment will be knocking on your door soon, if you keep this up. Forget calories, focus on cutting carbs. I assure you you'll feel better in no time at all, no more feeling ill, no more high blood sugars, no more being in absolute misery.

I could do that nurse an injury for scaring you into taking that stuff, as I know all too well how you're feeling right now. I'm so sorry you're going through this. I know it's hard to take the word of total strangers online, but look at it this way... We've been there. And if we're lying or whatever, your meter will tell you, as will your currently miserable stomach. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain, if you just start as soon as possible. And if it sucks and the forum members, me included, are full of it? You'll know before the weekend is out, I'm pretty sure.

I didn't have this place when I started, I was my own guinea pig. My meter was my best friend and all the books I read, I just tried whatever they came up with that made sense. Dr. Jason Fung's The Diabetes Code was a real life saver. I was quite dehydrated from the metformin side effects, aside from the abdominal bleeding it caused, the gliclazide wasn't any better really, and I ditched both meds with my doc's okay, after she saw how much my blood sugars improved... I've been in the non-diabetic range about 3 months after diagnosis, and it would've been a lot sooner if I'd known about this forum, and would've had less trial and error. I'm 5 years down the road and my blood sugars are still beautiful. Actually, they're better than my best friend's, who isn't a diabetic! All that without puking my guts out or living in the toilet. I just eat proper, nutricious food. No calories counted, no meds required. Just carbs cut. And I'm not alone either, there's masses of us on here.

I know it's scary and confusing. I know I cried every night in my sleep when first diagnosed. But it can get so much better.
Absolutely wonderful, and direct post JoKalsbeek! SuNuman do please listen to what Jo says here.
 
Never, ever take metformin on an empty stomach, it makes it that much worse. You keep saying you want to feel better first and then you'll adjust your eating, but you're putting the cart before the horse now. Ditch the metformin for a little while, see whether you improve, and change your diet, better yesterday than tomorrow. One of the things metformin does is suppress appetite, and with you feeling sick all the time on top of that, of course you don't feel like eating anything!

Also, with your current calorie intake being so very low, you're essentially following a crash diet. One you can't even keep down! You're not doing your body any favours with this, not at all. Malnourishment will be knocking on your door soon, if you keep this up. Forget calories, focus on cutting carbs. I assure you you'll feel better in no time at all, no more feeling ill, no more high blood sugars, no more being in absolute misery.

I could do that nurse an injury for scaring you into taking that stuff, as I know all too well how you're feeling right now. I'm so sorry you're going through this. I know it's hard to take the word of total strangers online, but look at it this way... We've been there. And if we're lying or whatever, your meter will tell you, as will your currently miserable stomach. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain, if you just start as soon as possible. And if it sucks and the forum members, me included, are full of it? You'll know before the weekend is out, I'm pretty sure.

I didn't have this place when I started, I was my own guinea pig. My meter was my best friend and all the books I read, I just tried whatever they came up with that made sense. Dr. Jason Fung's The Diabetes Code was a real life saver. I was quite dehydrated from the metformin side effects, aside from the abdominal bleeding it caused, the gliclazide wasn't any better really, and I ditched both meds with my doc's okay, after she saw how much my blood sugars improved... I've been in the non-diabetic range about 3 months after diagnosis, and it would've been a lot sooner if I'd known about this forum, and would've had less trial and error. I'm 5 years down the road and my blood sugars are still beautiful. Actually, they're better than my best friend's, who isn't a diabetic! All that without puking my guts out or living in the toilet. I just eat proper, nutricious food. No calories counted, no meds required. Just carbs cut. And I'm not alone either, there's masses of us on here.

I know it's scary and confusing. I know I cried every night in my sleep when first diagnosed. But it can get so much better.
Thank you so much. I notice today I have what feels like the start of cystitis - probably dehydrated do you think. I must start drinking more. My blood this morning was amazing. I think I’m slowly starting to feel better. One metformin of an evening that I am still too scared to drop. But thank you soooo much. You have helped me loads. Xxxxx. Below is a pic of where I want my weight to b. This was 2 years ago!!! Thank you so much. Xxxxx.
 

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Thank you so much. I notice today I have what feels like the start of cystitis - probably dehydrated do you think. I must start drinking more. My blood this morning was amazing. I think I’m slowly starting to feel better. One metformin of an evening that I am still too scared to drop. But thank you soooo much. You have helped me loads. Xxxxx. Below is a pic of where I want my weight to b. This was 2 years ago!!! Thank you so much. Xxxxx.
Cystitis tends to come on with high blood sugars, so if that's been happening regularly, getting blood sugar control should help with that. So good on you for good numbers this morning! Yes, drink loads, especially if you think you may be dehydrated because that does make it worse. Flush it out as much as possible, and maybe get in touch with your GP if you think you need a little additional help?

As for weight loss, I do believe that is in the cards. As is bacon and eggs. So yay. ;) (I absolutely adore your hair, by the way!)
 
Cystitis tends to come on with high blood sugars, so if that's been happening regularly, getting blood sugar control should help with that. So good on you for good numbers this morning! Yes, drink loads, especially if you think you may be dehydrated because that does make it worse. Flush it out as much as possible, and maybe get in touch with your GP if you think you need a little additional help?

As for weight loss, I do believe that is in the cards. As is bacon and eggs. So yay. ;) (I absolutely adore your hair, by the way!)
Oh bless you. Thank you very much. I will b that weight again very soon. My hair - v expensive upkeep but I don’t drink or smoke (and now no carbs) so why not??? Thank you. And thanks again. Xxxxx.
 
I would suggest you try keto + your current medicines. And after that make one more blood test.
For many people it isn't necessary to cut the carbs all the way down to a keto level, especially not if they're only just over the diabetes threshold.
Nothing wrong with going keto if you want to of course, but to get your blood glucose down, it's often enough to just cut the carbs a bit. Which is much less daunting and restrictive than a keto diet.
 
Hi all
Finding everyone's comments and suggestions really useful. Have been following a much lower carb regime for over a week now and intend to keep to this. Have done it before and feel I can again. I like scrambled eggs in the morning but previously would have this on toast, So thought I would try the Livlife low carb bread which I saw in the supermarket. Slices are very small and not the best tasting thing I have ever had but ok toasted with the eggs on. Currently only having one slice a day. What are your thoughts on this product?
 
Hi all
Finding everyone's comments and suggestions really useful. Have been following a much lower carb regime for over a week now and intend to keep to this. Have done it before and feel I can again. I like scrambled eggs in the morning but previously would have this on toast, So thought I would try the Livlife low carb bread which I saw in the supermarket. Slices are very small and not the best tasting thing I have ever had but ok toasted with the eggs on. Currently only having one slice a day. What are your thoughts on this product?
Do you not fancy your scrambled eggs with bacon?
 
Hi everyone
New to the site. Am a pretty fit 64 year old, still working P/T .Diagnosed with Diabetes first during pregnancy (1991) and this went away. But did return 2007. Was not medicated for many years then put on Metformin in recent years. My HbA1c has been pretty static around 51/52 for quite a few years. Had a letter from GP during pandemic that as my Diabetes was stable they would not be seeing me 6/12. Had my Diabetes bloods for the first time in 2 years in fact last month! I was at the end of a long list apparently!
Anyway, Nurse phoned today( over a month since the bloods so didn't rush) to say HbA1c was 54 and this is not good and GP wants me to go on Dapagliflozin. I said I needed to discuss this further as I am aware of this drug and it's potential side effects. She said I need to make a phone appointment with the GP in that case.
It never cease to amaze me how they can forget me for 2 years.......no blood tests, nothing and then get a nurse to phone to put me on another medication without any discussion. But what I am asking you guys is.............should I try and get the reading down by my normal diet and meds ( I probably have lapsed big time during the 18 month lockdown) before trying this drug? I am 5ft 3 and 10 stone 8 so not obese but a little overweight. You might be able to give me alot more help and advice than the nurse I spoke to!
Thanks everyone

Well if I were you, before going on this new drug, I will very seriously try to change your diet to a low carb one, and see if you can bring your numbers down to at least 48?
 
Well if I were you, before going on this new drug, I will very seriously try to change your diet to a low carb one, and see if you can bring your numbers down to at least 48?
Well that's exactly what I am trying to do. Have a phone appointment with GP on 15th where I will say I am back on a sensible low carb diet and do not wish to start the new drug until the result of my next Hba1c which I guess is due November. I am hopeful that a figure of 48 or below is doable
 
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