Phoenix, thanks for the links they kept me off the forum for hours :lol: I'm just not sure what conclusions I was supposed to draw from reading them though.
phoenix said:
Read/listen to the above articles, its a good thing to read evidence from different sources. Feinman is one of a group of doctors with an alternative viewpoint.. The paper cited is published in a journal that has a specific interest in publishing articles about low carb diets. (editor R Feinman , and see ed .board )
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=524026
I did listen to the above video and I have also bought and read Dr Bernstein's 'The Diabetic Solution' so I do not have a closed mind on this issue, its just that nothing I have read or seen convinces me that eating minimal amounts of carbs and high amounts of saturated fats ie. meat and dairy products can be a good idea, although as I said earlier I do see that a LC diet can be one way of bringing down the BG levels of Type 2's not on Insulin. But I also believe that the risks of heart disease need to be taken into account especially for someone with high cholesterol.
phoenix said:
also look at evidence from other sources. All are summaries, including evaluations of the strength of evidence for the various factors involved in CVD prevention (and diet is only one factor)
http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab002137.html
I agree that diet is only one factor but this link does summarise that we should eat less animal fat (saturated)
phoenix said:
WOW this one took me about 2 hours to check and basically says the same thing as the last one. I quote from Page 98
"The evidence shows that intake of saturated fatty acids is directly related to cardiovascular risk."
phoenix said:
This link again says:
"The recommendations are to balance caloric intake and
physical activity to achieve and maintain a healthy body
weight; consume a diet rich in vegetables and fruits; choose
whole-grain, high-fiber foods; consume fish, especially oily
fish, at least twice a week; limit intake of saturated fat to
7% of energy, trans fat to 1% of energy, and cholesterol
to 300 mg/d by choosing lean meats and vegetable alternatives,
fat-free (skim) or low-fat (1% fat) dairy products and
minimize intake of partially hydrogenated fats;
phoenix said:
And this link again:
Conclusion
1. Cardioprotective nutrition interventions should be implemented in the initial series of encounters and should include reduction in saturated and trans fats and dietary cholesterol and interventions to improve blood pressure; nutrition plans should be individualized to provide a fat intake of 25–35% of total calories, saturated fat and trans fatty acids should be as low as possible and at a maximum of 7% of total calories, and < 200 mg cholesterol per day.
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So they all pretty much say the same thing, that saturated fats are a contributory factor towards heart disease, which also kinda answers my question about recommending a low carb diet to someone with high cholesterol.
As the tittle of this thread says "300 diabetes heart attacks per week" cardiovascular disease is a major problem for us all
Reading those links has been an education in itself and I thank you for them but my head is now buzzing so I am off to shoot some on-line aliens, to chillax as my teenage son would say. 8)
I shall accept that we are all different and have different forms of diabetes and that some advice is good for some people and other advice is good for others
