I agree that's why I am doing this 3 months before my annual tests are due. 3 months of a diet should be long enough to show if it is right or wrong for me without doing too much harm in the meantime. The excess weight is harming me and I want it gone.@zand Cherry makes a very good point. It would be interesting to see how this change you propose affects your cholesterol, blood pressure, liver & kidney stuff and full blood counts etc not to mention any vitamin tests you can have thrown in.
I agree that's why I am doing this 3 months before my annual tests are due. 3 months of a diet should be long enough to show if it is right or wrong for me without doing too much harm in the meantime. The excess weight is harming me and I want it gone.
If it were me - I would be looking to establish a base line now - being what they were on the LCHF diet, and then again in 3 months time being what they are on the new diet ,. From my own experience with blood tests every three months, I can see the actual effect of that specific diet in the results ( eg I increased saturated fats in order to increase HDL and sure enough it did ) I'm not sure what a test in 3 months will tell you without the base point ? - even if the results are acceptable, you won't know if that is part of a positive or negative trend unless you know where you began, so if it seems to be working but the trend is actually negative you won't find out until after it all gone wrong on the test a year later.
I was rather sceptical of LCHF initially , because I was worried about the impact on everything else , As it happened an accident after 2 months meant I ended up having a new blood profile done after only two months into the diet. It was the improvement in all of the markers then that gave me the courage to continue.
I am fairly clear that I know why the LCHF isn't also resulting in losing weight at the moment, - its because all too regularly my day has included eating just that bit more that I used to . It is incredibly hard to continue recording big deficits in calories as needed to actually lose weight no matter which kind of diet is followed, that's why most diets also regress over time - again regardless of what kind of diet.
Did you record every morsel you do it on your current diet before the switch ? again for me , its all too easy to eat way too much as opposed to the diet itself being wrong. ( I do find nuts is my big downfall) . I would be very interested to know what kind of calorie intake you have been trying to use previously on the LCHF method to lose weight, and how that compares with your proposed calorie intake on a high carb diet.i.e. are you proposing to stick to similar energy input parameters ?
Yep! Exactly that. Thank you for understanding.Any test is scientific, even if the sample size is 1 ( i.e. Just ourselves) - in many ways that is the most important kind of science for the questions we are seeking inidividual answers to
That having been said, the scientific method of making a hypothesis and then testing it out by measuring important variables is something I would see as vial to any such endeavour.
If say your hypothesis was ' changing to this way of eating will / may allow me to lose weight without causing an unacceptable change in my diabetic control" Then the 2 variables to monitor would be a) weight and b) blood sugars - when you have that data then you can make your own assesment about how much the hypothesis is / is not supported
I expect if I am successful you will assume that I have simply been more careful with my calories ie a kind of placebo effect.think maybe you misunderstood my point. I am not trying to discourage you from trying it. I hope you are successful. I will be very interested to see the result and indeed if it does transpire that eating a very high carb diet (with limited proteins and limited fats and I assume eating to satiety? ) works as well/ better for blood sugar , insulin resistance and weight loss for you at this stage in your journey than does the reverse then I for one will be interested to try it myself at some time in the future.
I am learning from experience that drastically cutting my calorie intake simply slows down my metabolism. I don't want weight loss at the expense of being able to burn less calories in the future. The metabolism is a furnace:you need to put fuel on it to make it work. If I had known that 40 years ago I wouldn't be here on this forum now. I doubt you will find the research, the diet industry is far too lucrative to allow such research to be published.I have not seen any research that suggests that significant weight loss will occur in the absence of a significant calorie deficit for any type of diet including or excluding carbohydrates.
I havent seen any research either, but I know that, for me, the type of calories affects my weight. I can eat 1500 cals with very few of them being carbs and lose weight. I can eat under 1200 cals with more of them being carbs and gain weight. Its as if my body grabs all the carbs and puts them into fat storage right away,instead of using any of them.I have not seen any research that suggests that significant weight loss will occur in the absence of a significant calorie deficit for any type of diet including or excluding carbohydrates. All I have seen is that someone eating LCHF to satiety will probably eat fewer calories than those on other types of diets - though we are all different and for me clearly my appetite is still too big for this to work without actually also counting the calories. If I'm missing something on that research then no doubt someone will point me in the right direction.
Good luck with your efforts.
I expect if I am successful you will assume that I have simply been more careful with my calories ie a kind of placebo effect.
I am learning from experience that drastically cutting my calorie intake simply slows down my metabolism. I don't want weight loss at the expense of being able to burn less calories in the future. The metabolism is a furnace:you need to put fuel on it to make it work. If I had known that 40 years ago I wouldn't be here on this forum now. I doubt you will find the research, the diet industry is far too lucrative to allow such research to be published.
Yes I believe there might be.The thing I am thus intrigued about - is this. Is there some extreme of HCLF ( just like LCHF is extreme in the opposite direction ) where with few enough of fats and proteins the high carb. low fat diet actually has different consequences than the traditional calories controlled high carb, low fat diet for a diabetic and - if so how extreme does it need to be. That is what you are about to test and why I am interested .
The other part of that is that increasing carbohydrate content appears to increase triglyciderides - which there appears to be consensus is not something to shoot for - hence my interests in if you are monitoring blood lipid profiles as a result. if in fact an extreme HCLF diet not only keeps blood sugar down, but also prevents triglycericdes accumulating in the blood (which I assume it should do if in fact its a workable solution) then clearly you would be onto something !
I will be very interested to hear about what happens during the transition .i.e. is there a period when because of the previous LCHF diet, you find that initially you get very high blood sugar which you have to keep your nerve to " live through" until your metabolism has switched fully back to carb. burning mode . I will also be interested to hear any reports of just how much food you can actually eat whilst the weight is coming off. i.e. does your metabolism start to speed up and if so how quickly
As a Type 1 I know very little about Type 2 diets and medication, so would never presume to offer advice. Having said that, my partner was diagnosed as pre diabetic three years ago and asked my advice re food. He then adopted the low carb diet and admits he doesn't feel that he is missing out at all. He is now nearly 3 stone lighter and has a hba1c of 35. Needless to say he is very pleased with himself and quite rightly too.What I don't like to see are Type 1s advising unmedicated T2s or just Metformin users what they could eat unless they really know a lot about T2. That happens a lot, too.
Surely we want posters to tell us all what their diet and experience is. If you don't agree, move on to another post or reply to it. Personally I find it all fascinating and informative to learn how others cope with the many problems.I fail to understand why so many threads appear to meander off into " my diets right, yours is wrong" territory - Ive read at least 4 today where thats happened - none of which started out discussing diet but all of which ended up there.
Maybe Im just really long in the tooth, but I dont believe there is such a thing as a perfect diet that will suit everyone and / or stop D in its tracks for ever. Over the 20+ years Ive been diagnosed diabetic, different dietary combinations have been appropriate at different times and I have had to adjust my diet several times as I and D get older. Some will no doubt say I would / should have got better results if id followed their path. Personally Im more than happy to still be on the same meds, at the same dose, with hba1c in the 40's after 20 years
As long as we are free to call you 'boy' then it's fine !Where I live it is a word commonly used to describe any female. I use it daily.
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