ericthwaite
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s10vsb said:II have an appointment arranged with the Police. And for all of you have posted 'snide' comments my G.P. and A and E agree I should compain....
s10vsb said:Also, I NEVER used diabetes as an excuse for my arrest. I only turned into a "woman possessed" when I realized I didn't have my dextrose and had no idea what my blood sugar was.
Sid Bonkers said:Sorry but to my mind the police did everything they could have done to protect this person they called a doctor and went to their house to collect their insulin, which they then refused, they then took the person to A & E. At no time did the OP write of any hypo symptoms.
This wasnt the case of someone hypo and non responsive found collapsed and thought to be drunk, this was someone who was so drunk they argued with the police to the point were they were arrested, this is not easy and takes some persistence, when the police tell someone to go home they would much rather they did just that than stay and argue and cause them paper work and agro, and then after being arrested they continued to "kick off" in the cells. These are not hypo symptoms!!
A total waste of police and NHS time and money as far as I can see.
So, you don't think that testing or having her test her BG when she was arrested rather than waiting (possibly hours?) for the doctor to arrive could not possibly have helped - either to spot a hypo or allay her fears?Sorry but to my mind the police did everything they could have done
Strangely the NHS disagrees with you.These are not hypo symptoms!!1eleven
Signs of more severe hypoglycaemia include:
difficulty concentrating
confusion
disorderly or irrational behaviour, which may be mistaken for drunkenness
Refusing hypo treatments without first excluding a hypo is not "looking after your safety" but negligent. It might not have done any harm this time but what if they do the same to someone who is actually hypoglycemic?You should be thanking the police for looking after your safety and well being and NOT giving you dextrose
Sid Bonkers said:Sorry but to my mind the police did everything they could have done to protect this person they called a doctor and went to their house to collect their insulin, which they then refused, they then took the person to A & E. At no time did the OP write of any hypo symptoms.
This wasnt the case of someone hypo and non responsive found collapsed and thought to be drunk, this was someone who was so drunk they argued with the police to the point were they were arrested, this is not easy and takes some persistence, when the police tell someone to go home they would much rather they did just that than stay and argue and cause them paper work and agro, and then after being arrested they continued to "kick off" in the cells. These are not hypo symptoms!!
A total waste of police and NHS time and money as far as I can see.
andywright said:Sid Bonkers said:Sorry but to my mind the police did everything they could have done to protect this person they called a doctor and went to their house to collect their insulin, which they then refused, they then took the person to A & E. At no time did the OP write of any hypo symptoms.
This wasnt the case of someone hypo and non responsive found collapsed and thought to be drunk, this was someone who was so drunk they argued with the police to the point were they were arrested, this is not easy and takes some persistence, when the police tell someone to go home they would much rather they did just that than stay and argue and cause them paper work and agro, and then after being arrested they continued to "kick off" in the cells. These are not hypo symptoms!!
A total waste of police and NHS time and money as far as I can see.
Sorry my friend but to be fair aggression and being argumentative can actually be signs of a hypo although from what I think I have read this was not the case on this occasion
That's my point....I want it to be the law that if you're arrested, they test your blood sugar as soon as they take you into custody. They should have a graph on the wall..like a BMI graph...under 4 low, 4-10 ok 10-15 high 16-21 very high, over 21 medical attention needed. They should have dextrose and the pen to bring you back from a potential hypo/coma.weeezer said:To be fair, the OP knows the difference between high & low blood glucose levels, they didn't know what their bgl was, hence the need for dextrose, 'in case'. They should have been allowed to test, then everyone would've known what the situation was. It was only when the dr turned up, hours later @430am, that bgl was tested and was 21.
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I was told about a month ago to increase my dose of lantus from 18 to 20 cos my sugars normally about 6 when I get up in the morning... I saw a comment on here about lantus making your bs stay the same and I said how I had to take novorapid whether I ate or not cos it rises. Today, 4.7 when I got up, took 2 units of novorapid and my breakfast of a cup of coffee with 'normal' drop of milk. didn't eat at work and took no insulin and it was 16.1 at 3.30pm. I'm a waitress and do alot of running around to. I've got my next app in 2 months I've never heard of Levimir so I'll discuss the insulin I'm taking and see what changes could be made. Maybe Levimir can be the insulin for me. I've been on Lantus for the past 10 yrs which stopped LOADS of hypos in the night and I thought was the miracle drug. Maybe not!! Thank you for your feedback, much appreciated.Elc1112 said:Hi,
Have you spoken to your DSN about your Lantus? It shouldn't be bringing your sugars crashing down like that. If it is then it would suggest you are taking too much. Might be worth talking to them about splitting the dose? I am on Levemir. It really doesn't have much affect on my levels - apart from keeping them stable the next day.
Also, you mention that you struggle to recognise highs until you have ketones. I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you get a lot of highs? If so it may explain why you no longer recognise the symptoms. I tend to feel unwell once mine reach double figures. Again, it might be something to discuss with your DSN.
Em
As I've already said, I don't get symptoms for high blood sugar, only low. I didn't have any symptoms in the cell but had no idea what my bs was when they locked me up so was petrified of having a hypo. All the police need is a bs monitor to test all diabetics in custody, and that's what I'm fighting for!!!Sid Bonkers said:s10vsb said:II have an appointment arranged with the Police. And for all of you have posted 'snide' comments my G.P. and A and E agree I should compain....
I think you would do better to cancel your appointment with the Police and arrange one with a good SDN or Endo who can explain the difference between Hypo and Hyper and which one to treat with dextrose!!
You should be thanking the police for looking after your safety and well being and NOT giving you dextrose.
s10vsb said:As I've already said, I don't get symptoms for high blood sugar, only low. I didn't have any symptoms in the cell but had no idea what my bs was when they locked me up so was petrified of having a hypo. I don't take sugar unless I need it, and know the symtoms of when I do but the thought of needing it and not having it is petrifying as I'm sure you'll agree. All the police need is a bs monitor to test all diabetics in custody, and that's what I'm fighting for!!!Sid Bonkers said:s10vsb said:II have an appointment arranged with the Police. And for all of you have posted 'snide' comments my G.P. and A and E agree I should compain....
I think you would do better to cancel your appointment with the Police and arrange one with a good SDN or Endo who can explain the difference between Hypo and Hyper and which one to treat with dextrose!!
You should be thanking the police for looking after your safety and well being and NOT giving you dextrose.