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Bread ... why?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by bulkbiker, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. Tipetoo

    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    I will be back on the bread again next week, with the Herman Brot Lower Carb bread that @lbd posted about in this thread.

    I am good to go with three of the carbs, spuds / pasta and now back on bread and still keeping my bgl average of 5.6 mmol/l over three months. :D



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  2. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    really? this is what you want to argue about? It says "I eat" and "for me"

    I am not telling anyone else not to have them, or try them.

    I repeat, I have done nothing wrong, I have posted both my opinion and my truth.
     
  3. Mike d

    Mike d Type 2 · Expert

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  4. urbanracer

    urbanracer Type 1 · Expert
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    Chip butties!! Where's my insulin?
     
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  5. callieuk

    callieuk Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Newbie here adding her take ... I'm not a huge bread fan (unless it's sourdough or Tiger bread, then I can bought for a loaf of that ;))

    At no point have I been told to cut anything out of my diet, neither here or away from the forum. I have however been told to watch my carb intake and now know that normal wholemeal spikes me (cheese sandwiches for lunch the other day). We have brought some low-carb bread, both seeded and wholemeal, bot of which seem high at 9g per slice, but it means that in a hurry I can grab and go, which is how I intend to use it and then build into my daily allowance.

    I appreciate that for some people spikes are big issues, and I certainly do not have the knowledge or inclination to tell someone else how to manage their diabetes, but if a spike is a one off for me I'm prepared to accept it. We generally won't buy Tiger or sourdough unless it's a for a treat anyway, and it will remain that way - a treat.

    A little of what does you good - if you are prepared to see it as a treat, it remains a little and you can prepare for any results.

    No food porn for me - other than the usual cheese/salad cream, cheese/red cabbage (vinegary bread - yum) sandwiches growing up!
     
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  6. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Crisp sarnies!!!!!!!! Thin white bread loaded with crisps, pressed down, crisps then perforating the bread. Childhood memories.
     
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  7. callieuk

    callieuk Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Oh my I had forgotten the beauty, simplicity and just mouth watering temptation of crisp sandwiches!
     
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  8. PenguinMum

    PenguinMum Type 2 · Expert

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    I reget very much the wording of my last post which has led to some tetchy responses. I guess I was trying to mull over the psychology of the reaction to finding you were allergic to something as opposed to finding out this food is no good for BG control. Thats what I meant and should have said. So I am sorry to everyone if I upset you and for “taking a sledgehammer to cack a nut”.
    Perhaps I should tape up my big beak and waddle to the sidelines and watch and learn!
     
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  9. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Moderator
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    Don't wory about it @PenguinMum . :) If all gets too heated? It will get deleted... ;)


    Oh, behave! :D Now you got me reminising about Wotsit sarnies..
     
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  10. Boo1979

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  11. Daphne917

    Daphne917 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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  12. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Stopping eating bread will never ever do anybody any harm and it may well do them lots of good. I really don't see why you see a problem with anyone advising this. This is why new joiners come here to find advice from people who have been through what they are experiencing. My main reason for starting this thread was to see if anyone was prepared to analyse why they keep on trying to find bread substitutes.It seems that there are fewer than I thought/hoped who have just given it up completely which I think is rather a shame. Each to their own but I would still like to state while there may be some who say they can eat bread I think most should consider whether they should be eating bread.
     
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  13. Boo1979

    Boo1979 Other · Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I bulk buy them to keep the impact of the postage charges down ( the postage for 6-8 pkts is the same as for 1 depending on the supplier) and then freeze them. I do the same with the Lavish breads made by Josephs ( like a wrap /chapati) which are also very good
     
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  14. Boo1979

    Boo1979 Other · Well-Known Member

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    As long as its not negatively impacting on someones blood sugars (as evidenced by testing and retesting ) then theres no imperative to give anything up. I think people (in cluding me) are uncomfortable with people being told / strongly sdvised to give up anything without knowing exactly how their sugars are being affected. Any dietary advice given without account of the individuals metabolic responses is flawed IMO, be it the eat well plate, lchf, keto, weight watchers or anything inbetween
     
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  15. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    I still maintain that my first sentence is correct whatever metabolic state they happen to be in.

    "Stopping eating bread will never ever do anybody any harm and it may well do them lots of good."
     
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  16. britishpub

    britishpub Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well it worked for me, and it is the advice I will always give. I wouldn't characterise it as hysterical, just sensible.

    For me the eat to your meter mantra, and advice to experiment and see what foods spike you is dangerous and unhelpful. The longer you go not facing up to the issue, and the longer you go experimenting the longer it will take to get your BG under control, and the more damage you do to yourself by all the spikes you get when the experiment fails.

    IMHO

    Although I acknowledge and fully understand your points about how hard it can be for a newly diagnosed person.

    Ultimately they need to do what suits themselves, as it is their body, their health and their life
     
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  17. Sean01

    Sean01 · Guest

    I don't believe in low alcohol lager or wine. Sweeteners instead or sugar - that's just plain dangerous and low carb bread!!!!! If you want to have a sandwich, it'd difficult without bread - so have something else. It seems almost as daft as vegetarians eating vegetable and nut based products that look like lamb chops or sausages. Nothing is more weird than a ham flavoured vegetarian cutlet. Sandwiches are a bad habit - mainly due to lack of imagination. So the answer to the bread problem is Imagination. I knew I'd get there in the end.
     
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  18. Pinkorchid

    Pinkorchid Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I always preferred savoury things when I was child so never really liked sweet fillings for sandwiches but what I did like was fried bread with lashings of Worcestershire sauce on it until it was really soaked with it then I would put it between two slices of dry bread. I got my love of the sauce from my dad who would put it on practically everything.
     
  19. AdamJames

    AdamJames Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure I'm reading that right.

    Have you just described a fried bread sandwich? I.e. a sandwich, in which the filling is, amongst other things, a slice of fried bread? That's a stroke of genius.

    I'll be back in 2 hours with a blood sugar reading. If I make it back at all.
     
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  20. Pinkorchid

    Pinkorchid Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in your post to apologise for you never said anything that needs it.
     
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