and it is something we have lived with for ages, of course..sad as that may be.Ask yourself the question, why does corona virus affect the oil price and the economy whereas cancer doesn't?
Its because we dont know what's going to happen. If deaths are 3% and sixty million in the country get it, just do the maths.
It looks to be 5% in Italy atm, just do the maths if 10s of millions get it and you'll get your answer why the markets are concerned.
I hope the tide can be turned, perhaps we are like Canute and can't change the outcome.
D.
Perhaps we’d, as a human race, be better off with a few less businesses and financial profit less of a focus. I know - I’m naive to even wish it. I know no matter how bad this does or doesn’t get that’s not going to change sadly.Who buys if we are all in quarantine ?
It's the unknown it always spooks investors
Yep I know you get it (and are just keeping my cortisol levels up to keep me alerti know you mean it in a nice way..
But i don't catch cancer by some one coughing on me
i can avoid most snakes and mozzies (If i choose) most days
and the suicide.yeah, well the less said there i suppose.
and murder rate in the uk..mmhh..
but for all that i DO take the point made.and i the manner it is made.
Lets hope the many others who choose to see this as "Just flu", do at least take the precautions seriously,
it is ONLY that... that defends us at the moment...we have no other line of defense as yet..
as with quarantine, if we ain't ALL doing it, it makes little difference
just needs a few to ignore it, and we are back to square one
Taken from a facebook post on covid 19
'From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity. We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask. Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV.. We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern: 1.A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick. 2.;Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great. 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2. 4. Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly. Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to. Another
typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
Supplemental article: https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...s-italian-doctor-covid-19-christian-salaroli/'
Where is the terrifying emoji? So even well controlled, uncomplicated t2 in excellent health other than the virus will be left to fight it alone if it gets to the state it has in Italy if this is a full and accurate account. I’m becoming torn between stopping reading about this because the anxiety it is creating is increasing, perhaps unreasonably, and a need to take in all I can to feel some (false) semblance of controlTaken from a facebook post on covid 19
'From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity. We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask. Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV.. We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern: 1.A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick. 2.;Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great. 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2. 4. Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly. Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to. Another
typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
Supplemental article: https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...s-italian-doctor-covid-19-christian-salaroli/'
Nice post @Bill_St
I think he's being optimistic.
The US is going to have to seriously re evaluate how it delivers health care.
Too many are outside the loop
.....
We ALL stop it, together.
Or these people just make it last longer and harder then it needs to be.
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