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COVID 2019 Comorbidity with Diabetes

Hi all,
Another medic talking about oximeters and early action with covid19 this am on BBC R4.
He was suggesting we should test during exercise if we suspect early covid and see if we find a very dramatic drop in %oxygen, if so we should consult GP or 111 to get early action. This may not be evident on a resting test, apparently early action saves lives.
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I find that comorbidity in diabetes isn’t a consideration for this government, especially when people with respiratory issues are told to shield or self isolate, when this chart shows people with respiratory issues are lower than diabetes and those with heart issues... it supposedly costs the UK roughly £2,898 per person on the NHS perhaps higher for those with diabetes, etc... cynically times that number by the current mortality rate, would mean a massive saving... especially with Mr Cummings has the advisor in the shadows...
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robertFE said:
I find that comorbidity in diabetes isn’t a consideration for this government, especially when people with respiratory issues are told to shield or self isolate, when this chart shows people with respiratory issues are lower than diabetes and those with heart issues... it supposedly costs the UK roughly £2,898 per person on the NHS perhaps higher for those with diabetes, etc... cynically times that number by the current mortality rate, would mean a massive saving... especially with Mr Cummings has the advisor in the shadows...
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Are you saying that the governement is happy for people with diabetes to die because they cost too much? My feeling is that COVID 19 is an immune system disease that impacts the lungs which primarily afffects those who are immune compromised mainly because they are old. I don't ascribe these decisions on who should be shielded to conspiracy but too a lack of knowledge about the nature of this very novel virus.
Apart from anything else I expect that the costs for those with CoPD or chronic asthma.
 
Diabetes Type 1 is a auto immune response which destroyed the cells that produce insulin... thus it is to do with a weakened immune system... people with asthma’s and cancer are lower on the attached freely available list, and diabetes is higher in ethnic minorities ... where deaths have been higher.
 
Tipetoo said:
The Australian govt app runs in the background with minimal battery usage, which on my Samsung phone was less than 10% overnight.

I prefer the this one to a Google / apple app as there will be no advertising in it...
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This article might be interesting .....
BBC News - NHS rejects Apple-Google coronavirus app plan
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52441428
 
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Mr_Pot said:
This article might be interesting .....
BBC News - NHS rejects Apple-Google coronavirus app plan
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52441428
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Dr Aseem Malhotra on the BBC yesterday. Well worth a 5 minute watch - he talks very fast but in this case very welcome as he got all the important points into a 5 minute slot:

 
Most recently I've been learning from doctors working with COVID-19 patients in their respective hospitals. On one of the websites, there's an excellent handout on proning - (link to handout is at end of article in the "Explaining to the Patient" section)... https://emcrit.org/emcrit/awake-pronation/

This roundtable discussion on their EMCrit Podcast on YouTube was interesting...

The facilitator of the above roundtable also has a blog... https://thinkingcriticalcare.com/

I really like these docs.
 
The more I read about this disease, the more it sounds very similar to a very bad chest infection I had last year (which also revealed me as a diabetic!) that lasted 2 months with 2 terrible weeks in between where I literally could do nothing, barely could move :( It wouldn't surprise me if metabolic syndrome made these effects much much worse...

@Winnie53 that is a really good set of instructions and funnily enough what I was doing to relieve my symptoms naturally! I will add Vics and sitting up but leaning forwards also gave me some relief.

Thanks for sharing all - I watch this thread with interest.
 
I found the illustrated handhout on proning helpful too Jams&Scones. I better understand how to do it now.

I had a really bad flu last year too, and worse, husband was traveling. I used texting to communicate with family and friends that week. When I began talking for the first time a week into to it, I was shocked by how out of breath I was. And I still remember the first time I walked, late one evening in a dense fog. I actually paused. Almost turned back. But decided to continue walking at a very slow pace and limited my walk to perhaps three-quarters of a mile. (I normally walk 1 to 3 miles.) The next day, I began to improve, and was able to return to work, but advised co-workers to communicate with me via email only. Talking got easier after two weeks.

I think that experience is what's driving my intense determination to understand this coronavirus. As I learn more, I feel more confident that I'll be able to manage it.
 
Winnie53 said:
Most recently I've been learning from doctors working with COVID-19 patients in their respective hospitals. On one of the websites, there's an excellent handout on proning - (link to handout is at end of article in the "Explaining to the Patient" section)... https://emcrit.org/emcrit/awake-pronation/

This roundtable discussion on their EMCrit Podcast on YouTube was interesting...

The facilitator of the above roundtable also has a blog... https://thinkingcriticalcare.com/

I really like these docs.
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Taking a break from watching the video just to say that I'm SOOOO glad I have an advanced health directive in place with DNI/DNR specified. I absolutely never want to be put on a ventilator for any reason. Ugh!
 
@Indy51, listening to what these doctors are experiencing with COVID-19 patients has been informative for me. All impressive. There's more discussion revolving around end of life decisions in an interview between ZDoggMD and Scott a few days ago. Look for it on YouTube. I'd feel comfortable with any of these doctors providing my care. :)

That said, the more I listen, the more I learn how challenging our "sickcare" healthcare system is. Very much pharmaceutical driven, to the point that some hospitals do not allow ANY use of vitamin C, despite the Marik protocol for COVID-19 that uses both the meds and the nutritional supplements that have dramatically reduced mortality. Some doctors want to try to use it, but can't.

And some, perhaps many, docs are taking either the medications, the nutrition supplements, or both, to preserve their health, while patients are denied access. Additionally, both the meds and the supplements work best when given early, prior to or at admission to the hospital, yet primary care docs are strongly discouraged to prescribe the meds. Only the docs at the hospital are allowed to prescribe them.

I was talking with a friend about this a few days ago, and she shared that when she was hospitalized with a fracture and put on opioids, she requested magnesium from the doctor while hospitalized to head off the constipation, and he refused. The divide between medicine and natural medicine continues to be problematic. I so wish I had access to hospital care that provides both...
 
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