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Don't involve yourself in the blame game.

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by catherinecherub, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. solu1956

    solu1956 Type 2 · Member

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    Your liver is the most important organ in your body. It is the only organ that can regenerate, if looked after..learned a lot since my hubby's passing.
     
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    solu1956 Type 2 · Member

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    I am a paraplegic, so for me exorcise is impossible, my only way of tackling my diabetes is to eat as little as possible, and eat to my glucose meter. If I don't eat, I cannot take my meds, don't want lows.
     
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    solu1956 Type 2 · Member

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    I use vit d3, which is a spray you put on your mouth daily.(Physica Solray-D spray. This also helps take the calcium out of your blood, and takes it into your bones, we are all deficient in this because out bodies get rid of it faster than others without our condition. It also helps stop you hair falling out, too many to list here, but this goes straight into your bloodstream, does not get destroyed by passing through your stomach. You can find this by looking it up by name..
     
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    bruciebonus Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    As far as I am aware T2 has always been caused by a genetic issue, it's just that today our diets do nothing to help stop it, years ago people naturally exercised more and ate less, so a lot of T2's never got chance to develop the condition. They effectively, by chance treated a condition they new nothing about without knowing they were doing it
     
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    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Lynn74 Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you !!! I've recently been diagnosed T2 and had a really bad few months of stress, not eating and when eating not healthy options at all. When I spoke with the diabetic nurse and asked if stress could be a factor she said " I don't need your life history that's not what's caused it ". I wasn't looking for a reason just maybe clues as to changing my lifestyle. Your post has helped immensely.
     
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    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    How rude. Hope your nurse doesn't get it, eh?
    Some do.
     
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  8. Lynn74

    Lynn74 Type 2 · Member

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    I know ! Both diabetic specialist nurses in the practice couldn't really answer any of my questions. When I mentioned a low carb diet they were horrified! I'm still waiting to see a dietician as advising me to eat standard brown bread and canned fruit is not really the best advice to give.
     
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    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Lynne, I suspect the Dietician will say exactly the same as the nurses, they follow the same NHS rule book.
     
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    HR-Guy Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The tough part for me is to keep the good numbers you have to basically prepare the food yourself. There is no drop in somewhere and order something quick. Sure you can go out to eat, however, some part of the meal never fits. Just me thinking out loud (well writing out loud). Do I blame myself, no, life is to short and I rather direct my energy towards something positive like this board or how to share what I learned on journey.
     
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    Munkki Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I can identify with both points. I prepare most of my food myself, and sometimes dread going to new restaurants, especially ones with complicated dishes (glazed this, crispy that). With the years, I find my staples, though, such as meat and cheese plates (no honey, no balsamic - I know it is not much, but I don't like the sweet taste anymore) and I often bring little servings of butter and olive oil - or even my own bread replacement.

    No, I don't blame myself either. I can see how I went down the rabbit hole of low-fat, high carb, low salt, high insulin, insulin resistance, blood sugar fluctuations, cravings, weight fluctuations etc. I am healthy now, healthier than many at my age (I haven't even had a single cold this year) and that counts!
     
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    skph Type 2 · Active Member

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    It's never anybody's blame. Multi-corporations giants cash in on the trillion dollar lucrative business. Medical institutes got fully funded with all new drugs researches and developments. Hospitals gain with the sky rocketing revenues generated annually. Even government got taxes out of it too. But, whose to blame. Surely not the diabetic patient.

    Frankly, it's the fact that everyone was diagnosing it wrong. Everyone were misled.

    It's simply a mistake of looking at the wrong end of the problem.

    If you want to find out more, I will share more later.
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    That is a teaser. Look forward to you share about misdiagnosis?
     
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    skph Type 2 · Active Member

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    I am just a guy simply reading from good honest doctors about the truth of the matter. Doctors like John McDougall, Alan Goldhamer and Jason Fung.
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sharing! Have heard of Jm and Jf but not AG!
    John McDougall advocates a plant based diet I believe (low fat but high unrefined carbs) and I don't agree with his view that eating animals causes diabetes though I know he reports success in treating type 2s!
     
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    skph Type 2 · Active Member

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    Well nowadays you can't afford to listen only to one person's point of view.

    You got to read more from a string of people or doctors with their own set of principles.

    Then you evaluate on what will be sensible for your own use. Do trials and testing and ascertain what they say was true. But there is always limitations. Still within your means and capability. Key is you gotta read and research more. Determination strong standing on yourself. Dedicated. Meticulous. Leave no stone unturned. Until you reached your goal.

    As for John McDougall, I truly believe on a plant base diet...modified. But not going down the line of starchy food. Reason simply I'm still having T2DM and any form of refined or simple carbs will trigger insulin. And with insulin, I gain weight due to insulin secondary function to store glucose into fat cells as body fats to be used later. Remember what I mentioned about our designed Directive to keep us alive by all means.

    I'm now burning fats and converting it to ketones. The better alternate fuel. If you want to know more, go watch Dr Jason Fung, Dr John McDougall and Dr Alan Goldhamer YouTube videos on that subject and get knowledge info and understanding.
     
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    ROSIE1988 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have been reading this and its very interesting - though not sure about the insulin is ok bit? Goes against what Dr Jason Fung says......back to being confused now :(
     
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    kellywelly Type 2 · Member

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    Very glad for this thread today.

    Multiple injections and testing per day is hard enough but I find the attitude to type 2s the hardest thing to deal with.

    I refuse to tell people in the office because of the number of diabetes jokes I hear around me on a weekly basis.

    I've just been on the receiving end of a comment from a type 1 about how insulin dependent type 2s don't deserve the same equipment as type 1s because we got it because of lifestyle choices and we could reverse it by cutting calories and not stuffing our faces. I literally wanted to cry.

    I've worked so hard to get my levels at the right range but rather than feel proud of what I've done, I feel ashamed of who I am.

    Glad for this reminder to try and ignore the haters :)
     
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    James2 · Well-Known Member

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    i have experienced a lot of negative reactions to type 2 and i now dont tell anyone . i did make some steady progress but due to a combination of things the last Six months have gone to pot, so i am dusting myself off and starting again, this forum is a wonderful source of wisdom, knowledge and support
     
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    Maggzz · Newbie

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    When the doctor told me I was diabetic she looked me up and down almost disgustedly and let me tell you she's not exactly skinny herself. She made me feel like dirt. My HbA1c was 120 so no doubt. I've since brought it down to 44 and my diabetic nurse has been lovely and encouraging.
    I just wanted to say that there's a "Ted talk" on youtube about diabetes and she said that you're not diabetic because you're fat. In fact it's the other way round. You're fat because you're diabetic.
     
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