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First 7 Day Fast COMPLETED!!

Discussion in 'Fasting' started by KevinPotts, Jul 3, 2016.

  1. daisyduck

    daisyduck Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @KevinPotts
    You have inspired me. I'm type 2 and have been on LCHF for nearly 2 years now. Weight originally came down by 2 stones in the first year but has stuck now for a year although I'm eating the same and doing the same exercise. Hb level down to 48 so I'm pleased the way that is going. I'm still 2 stones off my target and getting so frustrated with lack of weight loss.
    Reading this post has given me the kick up the bum I needed and I have fasted all day. I've just had a multivitamin tablet, water, black tea and a mug of Bovril so far. BG started off at 7.5 this morning and has slowly come down to 5.8 now. I've surprised myself as I don't really feel hungry.
    How long and how often do you suggest fasting for a newbie please ?
     
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    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you've had a terrific day with good impact on you BG.

    I started once I had adapted which took me a couple of weeks to about 18 hours every day (last meal 7pm, next meal lunch at 1pm the following day).

    Then a 4 day once a month

    Then a 7 day once a quarter

    Just start at say 12 hours daily for a couple of weeks, then stretch this to 18 hours and then just progress steadily, but plenty of liquids and some salt hence the bovril.

    With serious commitment, I am sure you can break through any plateau:).


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    Brunneria Other · Moderator
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    You can get full and detailed explanations of fasting, and how to do the best method for you, at Jason Fung's website
    https://intensivedietarymanagement.com
     
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    britishpub Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have just completed an incredibly wimpy 27 hour fast.

    I feel terribly inadequate but the BBQ'd Lamb Rump and Greek Salad was too tempting.

    Hats off to @KevinPotts your incredible progress is inspiring for everyone.


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    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    27 hours is great well done:) I am sure it did you the power of good:)


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  6. daisyduck

    daisyduck Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'd forgot to count the overnight part so have actually just completed a 36 hour fast.
    Hardly felt hungry at all and Have just had 2 boiled eggs for a late breakfast.
    Pleased with my early morning BG of 6.6 as it is usually in the mid 7's. I can't seem to do much about that but it does come down during the day.
    Another little query if you don't mind @KevinPotts Even though I hadn't eaten my BG initially dropped to 5.8 but slowly raised again to 6.4 before I went to bed, is this normal for a fast ?
    Pleased that I also dropped 1kg although I don't expect all of that to be fat loss.
     
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    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely brilliant!!!!

    Even in my 7 day it was tough to get my BG down, but funnily enough it kept coming down and has remained stable (high 4s-low 5s) for several days afterwards:)


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    daisyduck Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant !! I hardly ever get readings in the 4's and if I do I feel a bit weird ? My body seems to like 5/6's better
     
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    Canadian_cousin Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Roy Taylor has a lot of very interesting ideas to share! Thanks for providing this link.


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  10. Craigh270779

    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    must say you are looking good and the figures are very good! I'm planning on doing this at some stage, do you still drink coffee in the morning with double cream or are you scrapping that? i drink sugar free diluting juice through the day, do you recommend that or just plain water?

    I've got the bit between my teeth and determined to make a big change, need to loose around 4 stone and change my whole outlook on life
     
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    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I still do the coffee with cream every morning. It seems to stop any early morning BG rise and helps with weight maintenance, as I've dropped below 11 stone now:)

    I'd go with plain water, sugar free and diet drinks are controversial:)

    Well if I can do it, so can you, steady and a complete mindset change is as you say the key:)
     
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    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    thank you, so far today I've had coffee with cream, been out and about, not had anything while out and had 1 baby bell just now, feeling okay, determined to loose the weight i need to and get my diabetes fully under control
     
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    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    having just completed a fasting from 1pm on monday afternoon 41 hours (with the exception of a babybell and cup of coffee with cream in in yesterday and sugar free diluting juice I've checked my levels just now and i'm sitting at 5.8mmol (and this is without taking any of my meds yesterday)

    it does work! going to push myself and do another one, not today but in a few days time and and try a bit longer, i don't feel hungry either

    is it possible to buy a cholesterol monitor?
     
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  14. KevinPotts

    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Glad you could see the impact:)

    I only do a 4 day once a month...seems to do the trick for me.

    I certainly need it now that I'm testing different carbs and amounts...some days I'm all over the place:)

    Im grateful for fasting as I discover my broader suite of carb foods:)!
     
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    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    it just shows you the impact that it can have, I'm off work on a tuesday so i guess its easy for me to do it then, if I'm off work I hardly eat, but at work i feel compelled to eat lol it will allow me to maybe eat something like toast the next day but I'm not missing bread or any other stodgy carbs
     
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    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    meant to ask, are you taking any supplements along with the fasting?, i was watching videos on youtube and there is a guy that regularly fasts there and he recommends zinc and magnesium which i purchased yesterday
     
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    KevinPotts Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yep - every day first thing with my coffee and cream:

    Both from www.nuzest.co.uk

    10g Good Green Stuff

    25g Clean Lean Protein (Wild stawb flavour)

    Mixed with 600 ml water, 1 tablesp milled chia and 1 tablesp milled flax

    + 1 X 1000mg vit C dissolved in 300 ml water

    So with the coffee lots of hydration to start the day and some essential goodness.

    When I started NuZest stuff I did some research here's my "report back":

    One of this community introduced my to Good Green Stuff by NuZest a few days ago, www.nuzest.co.uk so I reviewed the site and was sufficiently interested to purchase a sample, good old guinea pig that I am.

    This morning, said sample was consumed and as I did quite a bit of research last night, I thought the community might be interested in my thoughts....yes I know it's a forlorn hope...my kids and wife aren't interested so why should you be.

    Well here goes...by the way for the cynical amongst you (never) I am not an affiliate or in any way shape or form associated with NuZest:)

    So Good Green Stuff is a powder supplement. You take 10g with 300ml of water. It is gluten free, dairy free, soy free, GMO free and suitable for vegans, although I am as far away from being a vegan as you can imagine.

    It contains:
    21 real plant food
    21 Plant extracts
    16 essential vitamins
    11 essential minerals
    Fibres and microbiotics
    Enyzmes
    Bioflavonoids

    The product summary benefits are:

    Quick and easy, all in one solution - took me about 20 seconds to prepare this morning and was a smooth mix with the water.

    Easy to digest and absorb - no fillers or preservatives as in the tab multi vits

    Free from as I noted above

    Sharpens the mind and helps with stress - more on that in a mo

    Supports digestive health and immunity - more on that as well in a mo

    Its alkaline and tastes great - "Great" where did they get their copywriter from - its certainly inocuous and to my palate slightly vanilla, so easy to drink, but Great.....come on NuZest:)

    This drink supplement certainly seems to have more than any of my multi vits and more than just greens with 75+ ingredients; Greens, fruits (don't worry the fructose is infinitesimal) infact the entire product is extremely low carb, which I why I thought I'd test it out. Vegetables and berries, strengthened with vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, probiotics and digestive enzymes.

    So.....it mixes fine to a powerderless smooth drink, not much denser than the water you add and tastes perfectly paletable.

    So what exactly is in it and what does each of the ingredients do and are they material towards a RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) and that's where I spent 2 hours analysing last night.....I know, I'm a total sado:)

    Here goes:

    PLANT FOODS:
    Organic spirulina: lake algae, contains amino acides, RDA suggests 3 g per day, this is 1g, so 33%

    European Pea protein isolate: amino acids, protein and BCAA (branch chain amino acides) no RDA. 904mg

    Lecithin: fibre and helps with weight loss. No RDA. 750mg

    Apple Pectin: Fibre and weight loss. No RDA. 550mg

    Red Marine Algae: amino acids. No RDA. 485mg

    Flaxseed: Omega 3 and vits. No RDA. 400mg

    Organic Wheatgrass leaf: Vit and minerals. No RDA. 340mg

    Organic Chlorella: Iron and Vit B12. No RDA. 340mg

    Organic Barley Leaf: Probiotic, Fibre, Mg. No RDA. 300 mg

    Acerola Fruit: Vits C, A, Niacin. No RDA. 270mg

    Papaya: Vits C, Pot, Mg. No RDA. 250mg

    Pineapple juice: No RDA. 250mg

    Broccoli Sprout: Blood pressure, Blood Glucose. No RDA. 250mg

    Beetroot: Blood pressure. No RDA. 170mg

    Carrot:Vit A and fibre. No RDA. 90mg

    Ginger Root: Immune system and anti ox. No RDA. 75mg

    Licorice Root: Liver optimisation. No RDA. 70mg

    Spinach: Vits, C, E, K, A. No RDA. 70mg

    Whole Kelp:Vits, C, Copper, Mg. No RDA. 60mg

    Shitake Mushroom: Vit B and Potassium. No RDA. 30mg

    Slippery Elm Bark: Healing properties. No RDA. 25mg

    PLANT EXTRACTS:
    Citrus bioflavonoids: helps absorb Vit C. No RDA. 500mg

    Globe Artichoke leaf: Lowers cholesterol, anti oxidant. No RDA. 500mg

    Bilberry: good for eyes and anti oxidant. No RDA. 200mg

    Blackcurrant: Vit C. No RDA. 200mg

    Rosehip: Vit C. No RDA. 175mg

    Grape Seed: Anit ox. No RDA. 100mg

    Panax ginseng: helps with endurance and stress. No RDA. 100mg

    Milk Thistle Seed: lowers cholesterol acts on the liver. No RDA. 80mg

    Gotu kola: Healing properties, good against colds. No RDA. 75mg

    Green Tea: Helps all round with Metabolic Syndrome (high sugar, BP, Trigs, LDL). No RDA. 75mg

    Rosemary Leaf: Anti ox. No RDA. 75mg

    Ashwaghanda Roots: Helps with stress. No RDA. 75mg

    Astragalus Root: Colds, Diabetes, BP. No RDA. 75mg

    Tumeric Root: anti ox, anti inflam. No RDA. 70mg

    Cocoa polyphenols: Protection against CVD and artherolsclerosis. No RDA. 70mg

    Rhodiola Rosea Root: Energy and stress fighting. No RDA. 50mg

    Goji Berry: Vits, Iron, C, A, Calcium. No RDA. 40mg

    Dandelion: Calcium, Iron, Anti ox. No RDA. 40mg

    Hawthorn Berry: CVD, Antiox. No RDA. 35mg

    Burdock Root: Prebiotic, cholesterol lowering, antiox. No RDA. 25 mg

    Resveratrol: Blood pressure, diabetes, antiox. No RDA. 15mg.

    BIOAVAILABLE VITAMINS:
    A: Antiox and liver. 600ugre. 75%RDA

    D3: Calcium absorption etc. 10ug. 200% RDA

    E: Antiox, Free radicals. 15mg. 125% RDA

    K2: CVD. 70ug. 93% RDA

    C: Connective tissue building. 360mg. 450% RDA

    B1: Cells, metabolism, Growth. 600ugre. 75% RDA

    B2: Metabolism of protein. Nervous system. 10ug. 200% RDA

    B3: Energy conversion. 15mg. 125% RDA

    Pantothenate B5: skin, hair, eyes, liver. 70ug. 93% RDA

    B6: Metabolism. 360mg. 450% RDA

    Folate: Metabolism of amino acids. 360mg. 450% RDA

    B12: CVD, anti inflam. 100ug. 4000% RDA...yes that number is correct. Most literature indicates the western diet is very very low on B12

    Biotin: Metabolism, growth and general health. 330 mcg. 660%RDA

    BIOAVAILABLE MINERALS:
    Potassium. Cardiac tissue. 300mg. 15% RDA

    Calcium. Bones, heart. 165mg. 21% RDA

    Magnesium: Energy and protein synthesis. 100mg. 27% RDA

    Zinc: Colds. 12mg. 120% RDA

    Copper: Blood cells, nuro, immunity, bones. 250ug. 25% RDA

    Manganese: Anitox, mitochondria. 1.5mg. 75% RDA

    Silica: bones, teeth, skins, eyes. 14.5mg. No RDA

    Selenium: Antiox. Metabolism. 35ug. 64% RDA

    Chromium:Blood glucose levels. 35ug. 88%RDA

    Iodine: Thuroid regulation of metabolism. 150ug. 100% RDA

    OTHER:
    Lactobacillus acidophilus: Gut health. 3 billion cfu. No RDA

    Bifidbacterium bifidum. 3 billion cfu. Not RDA

    R-/S-alpha lipoic acid. Liver, cancer fighting, anitox. 75mg. No RDA

    Bromelian: Antiinflam.65mg. NO RDA

    Beta 1,3/1,6 glucans: 8mg. No RDA.

    Ubiquinone (C0Q10). Antiox, free rads. 8mg. No RDA

    Ubiquinol: 8mg. No RDA

    So as far as I am concerned as a LCHF dieter with all the recommendations to supplement in view of lower values in so much of our food, I am replacing all my supplements with this one simple drink, once a day.

    There you have it. By all means, arrive at your own conclusions, always.

    All the best. Kevin
     
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  18. Craigh270779

    Craigh270779 Type 2 · Active Member

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    Wow haha thanks for that Kevin, I'll get onto that and have a look
     
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    After reading this thread, which is so inspiring, I did a 64 hr fast, think I could have gone longer, if i didn't have to cook for the family.
     
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    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    :) How was your glucose level after the fast?
     
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