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Fruit. Enemy or Freind?

Robbity said:
Vegetables can also contain fructose, sometimes in fairy high quatities (e.g. a head of red cabbage contains more than an apple) so maybe we should be avoiding these as well?

Actually I've found so far that it's not easy to compare fructose values in fruit and vegetables as none of the info I've found has given fructose per 100g weight for veggies...

Robbity
Whio is starting to wonder whether it's getting to the point where anything will be considered safe to eat or drink :wideyed::wideyed::banghead:
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The insulin index may have a few clues, although the insulin response could well be due to a mixture of protein and sugars

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christoffer.green#!/vizhome/InsulinogenicFoodData/Dashboard1

Winter squash, cucumbers, onions and Kale don't come out too well, and nor do mushrooms but I ignore that bit. :)
 
Motherhen2014 said:
I read that eating fruit before a meal is better for your system and not afterwards. Just wondering what you all feel about it.
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It is best to eat fruit as part of a meal and not as a stand-alone snack. My nurse told me that, and I have subsequently read the same advice elsewhere. I don't suppose it matters whether it is before or after, although I have read it is best to eat protein as a starter.
 
I still eat fruit, both sub tropical and tropical in moderation I do not pig out on it.

My bgl averages are around the 5.6 mark for the last ninety days, hba1c has been 5.4% / 35 for the last three tests.
 
Hotpepper20000 said:
Bacon and eggs. No fructose there;)
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Full english is no good for me - I recently retested some foods i was diagnosed as having an intolerance to years ago but have been including much too often since being low carb - some were ok but eggs were most certainly not - spent a very painful 4 hours in response to eating 1 of those, similarly with tomatoes
 
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Boo1979 said:
Full english is no good for me - I recently retested some foods i was diagnosed as having an intolerance to years ago but have been including much too often sinnnnnce being low carb - some were ok but eggs were most certainly not - spent a very painful 4 hours in response to eating 1 of those, similarly with tomatoes
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But what about bacon!?? My God please tell me you can still have bacon!!
 
Guzzler said:
I was never a big fruit lover but on occasion I would have a banana sandwich made with white bread and marg. There are more carbs in one banana sandwich than my daily amount these days and I never had just the one!
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Omg. That was one of my favourites, with dare I say a sprinkling of sugar! The thought of it now actually makes me feel a little bit queasy :depressed:
 
Hotpepper20000 said:
But what about bacon!?? My God please tell me you can still have bacon!!
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Yep bacons atill ok so are mushrooms but theres only so many days a week I fancy that. - I normally either just have a non dairy cocoa or some low carb granola with almond milk and a few freeze dreie blackcurrents / raspberries for breakfast
 
Boo1979 said:
Full english is no good for me - I recently retested some foods i was diagnosed as having an intolerance to years ago but have been including much too often sinnnnnce being low carb - some were ok but eggs were most certainly not - spent a very painful 4 hours in response to eating 1 of those, similarly with tomatoes
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Not questioning the egg but nightshade are well known to bring on arthritis symptoms. The back of my knee swells almost instantly. Peppers in all forms, tomato, potato and eggplant are all nightshades.

That being said, I’ve been eating more eggs lately and have had a headache which is odd for me so I’m going a few days without to see. I question cheese to but I still have my ounce of melted Brie. Nuts in question as well but I NEED TO EAT , haha. And being keto taking out cheese and nuts makes it much harder. Thank goodness avocado works !
 
Boo1979 said:
Yep bacons atill ok so are mushrooms but theres only so many days a week I fancy that. - I normally either just have a non dairy cocoa or some low carb granola with almond milk and a few freeze dreie blackcurrents / raspberries for breakfast
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That sounds wonderful too. It is really difficult to find black currents here. I tried growing a shrub but it didn’t about to much. I love red currents.
I know what you mean about only being have bacon occasionally.
 
Kristin251 said:
Not questioning the egg but nightshade are well known to bring on arthritis symptoms. The back of my knee swells almost instantly. Peppers in all forms, tomato, potato and eggplant are all nightshades.

That being said, I’ve been eating more eggs lately and have had a headache which is odd for me so I’m going a few days without to see. I question cheese to but I still have my ounce of melted Brie. Nuts in question as well but I NEED TO EAT , haha. And being keto taking out cheese and nuts makes it much harder. Thank goodness avocado works !
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When I was formally tested for intolerances I had to exclude foods for 10 days to guage the effects before reintroducing and testing them - with the ones I came out as v strongly intolerant to, I felt much worse in the first 5-7 days of excluding them than I did when eating them, then things improved.
Im also intolerant to all nightshades - when testing tomatoes, 3 little toms blew my stomach up 3 inches, caused a rash across my chest annd asthma like wheezing which was rather spectacular!
 
Boo1979 said:
When I was formally tested for intolerances I had to exclude foods for 10 days to guage the effects before reintroducing and testing them - with the ones I came out as v strongly intolerant to, I felt much worse in the first 5-7 days of excluding them than I did when eating them, then things improved.
Im also intolerant to all nightshades - when testing tomatoes, 3 little toms blew my stomach up 3 inches, caused a rash across my chest annd asthma like wheezing which was rather spectacular!
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That’s horrible. I think I remember you testing foods awhile back. Did you quit all suspects at once or one at a time?
Gluten / grains were horrible to detox from. I totally understand the feeling worse first. I kind of forgot that so it’s a good reminder

What were your symptoms when you added things back in?

Only occasionally do I have nightshades and I reserve them for spicy sauce.

I do very well on the whole 30 autoimmune protocol but would miss nuts, eggs and my little piece of cheese. Small indulgences.
I’m seriously thinking the eggs are causing the headache. Non yesterday and just a hint of headache. I’m stopping them for a few days. Intolerances. Arg.
 
Robbity said:
Whio is starting to wonder whether it's getting to the point where anything will be considered safe to eat or drink :wideyed::wideyed::banghead:
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Indeed. And remember, recent studies suggest that bacon and other "processed" meats are "bad" for you, resulting in increased risks for things like cancer.... Having said that, the risk from uncontrolled T2 diabetes is probably a lot worse than that, so sometimes you just have to learn what suits your own body the best and choose your poison accordingly.:) (Just please please please try not to smoke, as that's really bad for everyone, and much more so for diabetics.)
 
I have strawberries and/or raspberries every day but with some fat content. I eat coconut ‘porridge’ with strawberries and cream for breakfast. Raspberries with Greek yoghurt at lunch and strawberries and cream after dinner. None cause a particular spike with a meal, but I suspect they might if I ate them in isolation
 
Tipetoo said:
I have just had bacon and omelettes for break fast, I also had half a Pitaya with Greek yoghurt. It was the only one that was ripe so had to share with my partner.




Hmmm! Fruit fed hamsters and rabbits, I bet they will be nice and tasty as they are pre marinated.
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Oh that’s right for you Ozzie’s those critters are pests.
I love a good roast rabbit as long it doesn’t come from my back yard.
 
Kristin251 said:
That’s horrible. I think I remember you testing foods awhile back. Did you quit all suspects at once or one at a time?
Gluten / grains were horrible to detox from. I totally understand the feeling worse first. I kind of forgot that so it’s a good reminder

What were your symptoms when you added things back in?

Only occasionally do I have nightshades and I reserve them for spicy sauce.

I do very well on the whole 30 autoimmune protocol but would miss nuts, eggs and my little piece of cheese. Small indulgences.
I’m seriously thinking the eggs are causing the headache. Non yesterday and just a hint of headache. I’m stopping them for a few days. Intolerances. Arg.
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At first I just eliminated a few suspect foods but felt awful after a few days andthought the theory was rubbbish, ate a normal meal and ended up unconcious on the floor with medics then questioning if I might be epileptic!
I was then referred to an asthma and allergy researcch centre for formal teting
When I was first tested I had to exist on lamb rice and pears for 10 days, then introduce and test foods one at a time,alongside having skin prick tests as well. Some of the reactions were quite impressive - wheezing, projectile vomiting and a belly like I was 9 monthe pregnant were among them. My boyfriend of the time alsso told me the nurses / doctors on the team got quit excited by my skin prick tests with one of them running down the corridor exclaiming “ we’ve got an egg lady, we’ve got an egg lady” I had to take meds for several years and could then have most of the fods Id reacted to, but only every 3-4 days
The best bit about it all was that although I was eating way more calories than before, I lost 61/2 stone in 6 months all previous attempts to lose weight or even just to stop weight increasing having failed throughout my first 23 years of life
 
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Tipetoo said:
Hmmm! Fruit fed hamsters and rabbits, I bet they will be nice and tasty as they are pre marinated.
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A friend of mine currently has guinea-pigs to test their taste. If they taste good he plans to breed them. He already does that with the rabbits and chickens, but that's considered more normal. And I must admit, I already ate my last rooster, he was an agressive a****e.
 
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