It makes me quite angry knowing how this cycle works. Money is the root if all evil. But even more worrying is I have spoken to my friend who was diagnosed about the same time as me. I've shared my new knowledge and advised to test to his meter 2 weeks ago. He has still not done one test. Seems happy to take the metformin and eat and drink what be wants which is what he seems to think taking these meds will allow.Hi. This topic has long been discussed on these forums. The main problem is the influence of the global food industry. They fund many of the university 'research' programs which keep the Professors in business. Organisations such as PHE (Public Health England) go to the universities for dietary advice and guess what they receive? Carbs are cheap and very profitable. The recent Eatwell Guide update was signed-off by a committee consisting of a majority of food industry people (the Minutes are lurking on the web if you can find them) so is totally biased. The next level problem is that NHS Choices, NICE, BDA (British Dietetic Association) etc follow PHE advice and GPs and DNs are expected to follow it. Even DUK (the .org one) followed this advice until recently when it has started to trim it back. I've complained many times to the NHS, DUK etc usually with no effect but DUK did recently give me a much more considered reply. What a strange world we live in. I feel sorry for those who take the bad NHS diet advice and don't know about these forums. The harm done is incalculable.
Thank you for your kind words. I wrote my post after waking in the middle of the night worrying about how things are for diabetics out there. I don't feel our little voices will be heard any time soon. It's really frustrating. But I do think we have the where with all to spread the word now with the internet. I found this life saving site via Google. My mum was not so lucky 30 years ago when she was diagnosed and put straight on insulin as a t2d. If she had a sight like this to turn to her outcome could have new so different.I dont know to be honest, perhaps it may prove beneficial and/or worthwhile if someone was brave enough to do so? I totally agree with your excellent post, and applaud you have raised valid points within, especially re business side of Medical Industry Docs payments from the system, many points unfortunately may not be taken into account by many or even know take place or exist. Diabetes it seems now, thankfully, is beginning to be viewed in reality by more and more every day as "big business" one way or the other, people are starting to wake up to the reality.
Enjoyed your informative post. Well said, more should speak out and share as points raised within more often. thank you.
It makes me quite angry knowing how this cycle works. Money is the root if all evil. But even more worrying is I have spoken to my friend who was diagnosed about the same time as me. I've shared my new knowledge and advised to test to his meter 2 weeks ago. He has still not done one test. Seems happy to take the metformin and eat and drink what be wants which is what he seems to think taking these meds will allow.
Coming to this thread late but I’ve never had to question dietary advice at my surgery, because I’ve never received any! I’ve only ever seen my GP there (no Diabetes specialist nurse there apparently). I went on my education session and although there was a suggestion to cut carbs and go for lower carb foods, they fell short of recommending a level of grams of carbs per day when I asked. I go on the year anniversary update next month, I may be braver and more confident in my questioning now I am living proof that low carbing works wonders for blood sugars and weight loss! Just depends how I feel on the day but I do feel I need to spread the word!
Play them at their own game!In the end, when change comes it will boil down to two things. The wonderful work of boffins like Noakes, Malhotra, Lustig, Sikaris et al and The Wisdom of Crowds.
The only way to beat Big Food is with the power of the purse. The only way to beat Big Pharma is to stay as well as we can possibly be. The only way to beat these naysayers who cite against what they term anecdotal evidence with such disdain is to grow in number until the whisper becomes a roar.
And Breathe!
But what we (T2D) need is a Get Well plate that will reduce our reliance on medication.
Have a crack at the healthy food wheel here in Australia.
https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/guidelines/australian-guide-healthy-eating
That's why the pix is fuzzy I think.You can almost see the sponsors...
Me too! Low fat everything, brown rice, pasta and bread, high fibre usually baked beans, jacket potatoes and plenty of fruit and still wondered why I never lost weight even though I was eating ‘healthily’.Not only have I heard of the Eat Well Plate. I ****** went out and bought the Eat Well Plate. I did actually follow the guidlines, being careful not to overload the Eat Well Plate, making sure that the potatoes never went over the line, and had a chicken breast the size of my palm. I still put on weight and was told that I was Pre-Diabetic. The Eat Well plate is now at the back of the cupboard never to be seen or used again
Incredible! someone needs to raise to their awareness to Oz down under, they seem to have it all wrong, need to update their knowledge and recommendations of diabetes and dietary recommendations especially.
your absolutely right, our little voices not heard currently or soon, but we cant give up, the saying goes when doors close keep knocking, try try again, until someone the system the diabetes experts, so called committees, takes notice, the more voices who share knowledge of the reality the better, re areas that need changed reviewed, updated, I refer to an example, once had a client as am retired lawyer, the clients words were, I have never forgotten! "when one is not guilty, yet viewed as guilty, you know your 100% not guilty, then you are not guilty, and to get that right, you dont give up, until its right"Thank you for your kind words. I wrote my post after waking in the middle of the night worrying about how things are for diabetics out there. I don't feel our little voices will be heard any time soon. It's really frustrating. But I do think we have the where with all to spread the word now with the internet. I found this life saving site via Google. My mum was not so lucky 30 years ago when she was diagnosed and put straight on insulin as a t2d. If she had a sight like this to turn to her outcome could have new so different.
Incredible! someone needs to raise to their awareness to Oz down under, they seem to have it all wrong, need to update their knowledge and recommendations of diabetes and dietary recommendations especially.
I am newly diagnosed and got handed the diet sheet on Tuesday. I'd already been self testing for two weeks and engaging with this forum. When I saw the guidelines I was gobsmacked. I felt like I should ask if they had handed me the wrong thing.
Basically, eat bread and rice and other carbs as a big chunk of your diet. No thanks!
I feel so concerned for the people who fully accept what the doctors say and blindly follow the advice of the NHS. Surely it's not right to lead them down a path that will hurt them and cost the NHS more in the long run.
Yet paradoxically many of the challenges facing the developed world are because we are living longer.The modern lifestyle has pushed us to operate beyond our design specs, staying awake when we should be resting, eating when we should be fasting, leading to accelerated organ failures.
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