High Blood Sugars in the morning

garyv57

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Type 2
Hi ,
I have been T2 for 4 years, but recently I have started having high readings in the morning before food.
I do 5:2 diet with 600 cals two days a week
I take 3 x 500mg Metformin.
This morning was 10.9mmol/ltr, normally 7.5mmol
In the evening it's down to 5.2mmol eating normally, I do 5:2 diet with 600 cals two days a week and my Hb1ac was 52 which my GP was happy with.
any advice would be appreciated

Gary
 

Guzzler

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May I ask if it is the Mediterranean diet you follow on the five days and if so can you give us an idea of a typical day's menu?

I shall tag @daisy1 for the info pack for you, in it you will find lots of links and interesting pieces.
 

daisy1

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@garyv57

Hello Gary and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

garyv57

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
May I ask if it is the Mediterranean diet you follow on the five days and if so can you give us an idea of a typical day's menu?

I shall tag @daisy1 for the info pack for you, in it you will find lots of links and interesting pieces.
Thank you both for that, Not exclusively the Mediterranean diet, I have been a non meat eater for 40 years plus, I eat pasta, jacket potatoes with various meat free fillings, cheese tuna etc on my other days
On the 2 low calorie days my wife cooks fat free chilli and curry with a half a portion of rice normally pilau
 

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You could try cutting back on the starchy carbs like the pasta and rice then see how your bg seems. I can tolerate a very small amount of basmati rice when using the cook and cool method but pasta sends my bg up like it is on a Big Dipper.
 
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pollensa

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Hi ,
I have been T2 for 4 years, but recently I have started having high readings in the morning before food.
I do 5:2 diet with 600 cals two days a week
I take 3 x 500mg Metformin.
This morning was 10.9mmol/ltr, normally 7.5mmol
In the evening it's down to 5.2mmol eating normally, I do 5:2 diet with 600 cals two days a week and my Hb1ac was 52 which my GP was happy with.
any advice would be appreciated

Gary
Try intermittent fasting for 24 hours, I do this and my levels are always around 80mg/dl fasting, I was always high until I did this and works wonders for my body.

Good Luck.

Mallorca
 

david1241

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I reversed my Type 2
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Yes i went on a 24hour alternate fasting diet.I lost over 3 st. in weight reduced my blood sugar fasting readings from between 10.8 mml and 16mml + to between 3.8 mml and 5.8 mml .I have been totally free of diabetes for ten months..all my complications i was getting have cleared up .i can now eat what i like without any problems.I feel very much better.Like a new man.it is certainly worth trying out.I refused to take statins ,and weened myself the blood pressure drug Atenolol.Both these drugs can cause the onset of type 2 diabetes so i have read.The so called doctor refused to take me off Atenolol.I.d been taking 100mgs a day of this drug for at least 25 years.She got decidedly nasty when i refused to take statins.So i told i'd sort my diabetes out myself .Which i have.I think she was trying to make my diabetes worse. I was given Metformin.the less said about this drug the better as far as i'm concerned.
 
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pollensa

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Yes i went on a 24hour alternate fasting diet.I lost over 3 st. in weight reduced my blood sugar fasting readings from between 10.8 mml and 16mml + to between 3.8 mml and 5.8 mml .I have been totally free of diabetes for ten months..all my complications i was getting have cleared up .i can now eat what i like without any problems.I feel very much better.Like a new man.it is certainly worth trying out.I refused to take statins ,and weened myself the blood pressure drug Atenolol.Both these drugs can cause the onset of type 2 diabetes so i have read.The so called doctor refused to take me off Atenolol.I.d been taking 100mgs a day of this drug for at least 25 years.She got decidedly nasty when i refused to take statins.So i told i'd sort my diabetes out myself .Which i have.I think she was trying to make my diabetes worse. I was given Metformin.the less said about this drug the better as far as i'm concerned.

Well done david, and completely agree with your thoughts as outlined I am sure your not wrong, only ourselves know our own bodies best, and when support is not there, sometimes one is forced to take charge of ones own body and sort it out you did and I did also.

Mallorca