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Inside Out Programme BBC1 (London) Tonight 7.30PM

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by asparagusp, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/pdf/postmedj00315-0056.pdf

    Just saying.. Maybe a 7 or 10 day fast would have such great benefits in bringing down blood sugars that they would be inspired?
     
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  3. Engineer88

    Engineer88 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    It was this forum. They taked about its base just outside coventry, had its banner and talked about it being the largest membership. also about diabeliama and eating disorders and how its like on a day to day basis living with diabetes
     
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    Hiitsme Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Engineer88
    Which region?
     
  5. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    Hi. Ignore any guidelines for recommended calorie intake. The 'experts' just make up the numbers aided and abetted by the food industry. Most people will soon know if they aren't eating enough i.e. they will lose weight and it won't stop :)
     
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    Engineer88 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    East midlands (im near banbury) but may have been west midlands as @tim2000s said above!
     
  8. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    Since the NHS has been preaching the wrong diet (Eatwell plate, loads of carbs etc, low-fat everything) then the patients come back having not lost weight and hence have bariatric surgery. The lunacy and ignorance continues in the NHS and elsewhere although I do detect a feint ray of light in some areas.
     
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    walnut_face Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I think an8 week fasting is called a hunger strike:sorry:
     
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  10. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    This week's TV program did mention diabetes.co.uk i.e. this site and not the DUK one which was great. I do sometimes look at and contribute to the other DUK site and it has changed a lot over the last year. The stuffy nonsense from DUK has faded and many of the posts tend to be in line with the up to date thinking this site proffers. Even the DUK website dietary guidance has been very quietly changing - have a look. I'm sure DUK would never admit it but the complaints we have all made to them about diet appear to be having some effect at long last.
     
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    Ok, a literal translation but the point I was making is that our advanced modern society has the ability now to carry out bariatric surgery as though its no big deal. It’s a convenient way to try and fix a long term problem with short term results.
    The hard way is to lose weight naturally. “Lose some weight” is not a useless piece of advice in itself, but, in reality, how to lose the weight is a very personal issue. We are all individuals and for some it could be as simple as portion control, exercise or calorie counting but for others it could be counselling to overcome psychological problems that lead to weight gain or, in extreme cases, where all else has failed or is not possible…….bariatric surgery. Hell, the Eatwell Plate could well work brilliantly for some depending on what they currently eat!
    But for me, something as extreme as surgery and which does not have a 100% success rate should be restricted for those cases that require it.
    The Oxford Uni study in the news today where Doctors bring up the fact someone is overweight and offer help is very interesting and has promising results.
     
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    Any idea why the interviewees in the section about diabetes.co.uk were all Type 1's (or at least that's what they appeared to be) especially odd after the first half of the program was all about Type 2.. This was never made clear and there was lots of talk about "Diabetes" without any specifics.
    Maybe I should ask @CaptainEarle
     
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  13. bulkbiker

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    I think that exercise and calorie counting are certainly not effective ways of loosing weight. Calorie counting especially has been show many times to fail although exercise too mainly serves to spike the appetite. When anecdotal evidence from the site is huge that changing what and when we eat is such a powerful tool I find it pretty devastating that so many HCP's are either ignorant of this or unwilling to even discuss it yet are happy to consider bariatric surgery. I'm not saying that you are in that camp but many of your colleagues are guilty as charged.
     
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    I follow both the forums, and I find that both of them are interesting, because I haven't found any Italian speaking forum with a lot of frequentation. United Kingdom based forum are talking a lot about NHS woes, that are like but not quite the same like SSN woes, or in this case of TV programmes broadcasted by BBC, but this is not a big deal.
     
  16. serenity648

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    Are there after affects of bariatric surgery? I vaguely seem to remember reading about people needing further surgery, gall bladder troubles, issues with loose skin, and malnutrition in the long term, but cant remember where I read it.

    wouldnt that cause health problems of its own, coupled with costing the NHS even more money?
     
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    I also used to correspond on DUK forum but got Moderated off it for making disparaging comments about HCVLF diet (Eatwell#2), and that was just a few months ago. Mind you I also got bounced from this site at around the same time, so it must be something in the water, like low bgl. Whooppee Doo!
     
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    The same thing happened to me in my 40yrs i only got diagnosed because l was going in for an operation and a blood sugar test was done i was undiagnosed for yrs piling weight and kept going to the doctor's l am T2 very interesting to know that a virus could be the cause
     
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    Adele Francis
     
  20. lovinglife

    lovinglife Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The virus bit was in reply to @asparagusp - mine wasn't a virus I'm pretty sure mine was genetic also I have PCOS and psoriasis- all of which raise your chances of being T2

    As I have tagged asparagusp in the post she (I think you are a she @asparagusp if not apologies :))may be more help with the info on the virus thing as I know next to nothing about that

    Welcome to the forum by the way:)
     
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