copilost
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I'd completely support this and say you need to investigate "selection bias" in fact all forms of research bias, very interesting if you're genuinely interested in research.
I'd completely support this and say you need to investigate "selection bias" in fact all forms of research bias, very interesting if you're genuinely interested in research.These studies have stringent selection processes
And there was me thinking it was a "law" i.e. everything must comply... ?It's no longer a hypothesis when it's supported by the majority of the data.
I've only scanned it but it is how I have mentioned. A sealed chamber - the human body is not a sealed chamber and the variables of the human metabolism and the environment surrounding it are nowhere near a constant.As if by magic my twitter feed posted this
https://elemental.medium.com/the-calorie-myth-f9e5248daa0c
Please could you point out where in that paper it says so? I couldn't find what you claim is written in the paper: There is no mention of "hour" or "hours" anywhere in the paper, nor "days" associated with either "2" or "two" and "adapt" is only mentioned in the heading I quote below, the contents and two study references. This is a quote from the paper you cite:Also it does not take 3 weeks to become keto adapted. This study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24351673/ shows it can take as little as 48hrs.
But no other animal watches Formula 1, either! Contradiction!If humans want to do what no other animal does fine, I will abstain and waste more time watching formula 1.
Please could you point out where in that paper it says so? I couldn't find what you claim is written in the paper: There is no mention of "hour" or "hours" anywhere in the paper, nor "days" associated with either "2" or "two" and "adapt" is only mentioned in the heading I quote below, the contents and two study references. This is a quote from the paper you cite:
Adaptation to ketosis
During starvation, ketone body levels increase from day 3 and continue to rise to reach a plateau around 8 mmol/L after 5—6 weeks of starvation.
which seems to back what we were saying. No?
Not the first time broken or irrelevant links have been usedEdit: A friend of mine couldn't find within that paper what you claimed, either. If you now cite the paper which DOES include your claim, I'm sure we'll accept that you just made a mistake.
Otherwise it will appear that you made a false claim and spread false information - which I thought was what you were accusing us on this forum of doing and were so against. (I also noticed that your link to the Satiety Index had no bearing on the point you were trying to make at the time...)
Not the first time broken or irrelevant links have been used
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/th...-restriction-fans.166300/page-15#post-2096772 #286
Hello Folks,
I recently found this item from 2014 entitled "Study: Doubling Saturated Fat in the Diet Does Not Increase Saturated Fat in Blood":
https://news.osu.edu/news/2014/11/2...iet-does-not-increase-saturated-fat-in-blood/
which discusses the research paper "Effects of Step-Wise Increases in Dietary Carbohydrate on Circulating Saturated Fatty Acids and Palmitoleic Acid in Adults with Metabolic Syndrome" found here:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0113605
(co-authors Stephen D. Phinney and Jeff S. Volek will be familiar to many of you...)
I have heard of a study named something like Well Woman(?), a large-scale official US study which showed calorie restriction was not successful long-term, but can't find it.
I've heard of the Biggest Loser Study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/oby.21538 but there must be many more...
Please could people share links to good quality studies either supporting Low Carb or showing calorie restriction to be ineffective long-term? Many thanks!
I’ve lost the weight already. By your theory anything that I can maintain and listen to hunger would be ok at this point. But if I eat carbs my blood sugar rockets regardless of and before it raises the numbers on the scales. Not what I want. Perhaps your method works for you but it doesn’t for lots of us. Weight is not the only thing that makes us diabeticOut of curiosity, for what purpose?
I asked my doctor what the best weight loss diet was for a T2, and her response was “the one you will stay on”. Exactly. And now that I’ve lost the weight, I would add that the best way of eating once the weight has been lost is “one that makes the ‘lifestyle change’ permanent”. I eat when I’m hungry, and stop when satisfied. If I ignore my true hunger signals and eat too much, I cut back until I lose the pound or 2 I’ve gained. I go by how I feel, and what my medical tests confirm is good for me.
The purpose? The purpose is to debate and possibly debunk paradigms.Out of curiosity, for what purpose?
I asked my doctor what the best weight loss diet was for a T2, and her response was “the one you will stay on”. Exactly. And now that I’ve lost the weight, I would add that the best way of eating once the weight has been lost is “one that makes the ‘lifestyle change’ permanent”. I eat when I’m hungry, and stop when satisfied. If I ignore my true hunger signals and eat too much, I cut back until I lose the pound or 2 I’ve gained. I go by how I feel, and what my medical tests confirm is good for me.
I’ve lost the weight already. By your theory anything that I can maintain and listen to hunger would be ok at this point. But if I eat carbs my blood sugar rockets regardless of and before it raises the numbers on the scales. Not what I want. Perhaps your method works for you but it doesn’t for lots of us. Weight is not the only thing that makes us diabetic
The purpose? The purpose is to debate and possibly debunk paradigms.
Eating a diet based on 'what you can stick to' tells us nothing, I can stick to a modern western diet and not gain weight to excess, does that mean it is ok?
This was a story of my experience, not a “theory” about anything
I asked my doctor what the best weight loss diet was for a T2, and her response was “the one you will stay on”. ......... I would add that the best way of eating once the weight has been lost is “one that makes the ‘lifestyle change’ permanent”.
The reason is that some people seem to think Low Carb diets are without any medical support and that calorie restriction is thoroughly supported by medical studies. I was particularly addressing this perspective...Out of curiosity, for what purpose?
I asked my doctor what the best weight loss diet was for a T2, and her response was “the one you will stay on”. Exactly. And now that I’ve lost the weight, I would add that the best way of eating once the weight has been lost is “one that makes the ‘lifestyle change’ permanent”. I eat when I’m hungry, and stop when satisfied. If I ignore my true hunger signals and eat too much, I cut back until I lose the pound or 2 I’ve gained. I go by how I feel, and what my medical tests confirm is good for me.
The reason is that some people seem to think Low Carb diets are without any medical support and that calorie restriction is thoroughly supported by medical studies. I was particularly addressing this perspective...
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