My brain will not except that grated cauliflower is rice or mashed cauliflower is mashed potato, probably due to it tastes the same as cauliflower and the texture isn't what it's pretending to be it's cauliflower... And I hate bein bored with my food!
I don't know how people can eat that sort of thing and sliced courgette as pasta! If it was served up to me I'd puke!
AliB said:My brain will not except that grated cauliflower is rice or mashed cauliflower is mashed potato, probably due to it tastes the same as cauliflower and the texture isn't what it's pretending to be it's cauliflower... And I hate bein bored with my food!
I don't know how people can eat that sort of thing and sliced courgette as pasta! If it was served up to me I'd puke!
You see, that's the problem. People always want to try and 'replace' carb foods with other veg, and it just doesn't work. Of course cauliflower doesn't taste like rice - it isn't rice! But mashed, with a little Marigold bouillon powder (from Tesco, etc), a knob of butter and a dash of cream it's delicious. Even my grandkids scoff it gratefully.
I have made low-carb 'lasagne' made with minced beef, tomatoes and onions layered with thinly sliced carrot, mashed cauliflower and a good slather of cheese sauce and that was so good it was published in a magazine! The kids always scoffed that one down too.
Although it is made in a similar way, I never considered it to be lasagne - how can it be without the pasta? But it is a very good substitute.
It is about being adventurous. My daughter recently went to dinner with some friends. The husband is Egyptian. She came back enthusing over the thinly sliced aubergine fried in olive oil and sprinkled with lemon juice and sea salt. It was delicious - I have made it myself. Moussaka is another delicious meal made with minced lamb or beef and aubergine that has been served in Greece for generations.
But if you are open-minded enough to try anything you might just be surprised.
AliB said:My concern about low-carb and low-fat is that as the body can only burn carbs in the form of glucose, or fat in the form of ketones as fuel then if an individual is on low-carb AND low-fat, the only other place they could get enough fuel from is their muscles. Of course they feel ok because the body is compensating quietly without their awareness..
From what I've seen people eat and from reports of fat consumption of the population' your above statement is not entirely right. Yes, there are people who who stick to these guidelines but the majority do not and hence the reason why the Government drew up these "guidelines" on the recommendation of the Chief Medical Officer and other Professional HCPs.AliB said:It's not about what I would consider to be low - or high fat for that matter.
The criteria for low-fat is that generally set by the Government guidelines and that is supposedly the way many people eat today.
And sadly, much of the fat they do eat is pretty awful stuff.
The criteria for high fat often differs between one person and another but I suppose that high fat in terms of a ketogenic type diet would come in at between 60 - 70%. I would think that the low threshhold would have to come in at anything under around 20%.
We have to have some fat in the diet, and some of that should be saturated. But then even 'saturated' fats aren't all saturated. Personally I prefer saturated fats because I would rather trust the stable fats that have been used for thousands of years than the modern processed highly unstable vegetable oils that turn into 'varnish' when heated. The only exception is olive oil.
I don't weigh my fat - some people do - but assess what I eat by tablespoon. Some days it may be slightly more or less than others. I usually have two or three tablespoons of butter or ghee and slightly more of coconut oil, plus a little lard and sometimes olive oil. (Some people pick up their ratios from the likes of 'Fitday').
Fortunately I never did jump on the low-fat bandwagon - it never did make any sense to me -
we have a gallbladder - why would we have that if we weren't designed to eat fats in quantity?
My Dad used to moan at me for slathering butter on everything, but I kind of feel somewhat vindicated on that now. Might have done him more good if he'd upped the butter.
The heart likes fats.
One other thing I picked up during my research is that women in cultures who consume a lot of fat (like those in Yucatan for instance) don't suffer with Menopasual symptoms. I have to say that although I have had quite a lot of other issues I have never had any obvious Menopausal symptoms at all, so may be there is something in the fats that has supported that.
If I wasn't on the healing diet I probably would have a bit less, but the fats help to remove toxins, and they are certainly doing that. Coconut oil has been my saviour over the last three years, as food, as hand cream, deodorant, for healing (healed a very severe burn to my left hand within weeks). It's amazing stuff. A diabetic friend has had a foot ulcer that wouldn't respond to any prescription treatment. It has gradually been healing with the use of coconut oil.
phoenix said:Sorry, I had no intention of writing anything more in this thread but just to clarify something:
diet percentages are usually in terms of energy ie calories rather than weight of food.
eg 70% fat, 20% protein, 10% carb would be a very high fat low carb diet
if a person eats 1800 calories in a day
70% would be 1260 calories, fat has 9 calories per gram : 140g fat
20% would be 360 calories, protein has roughly 4 calories per gram :90g protein
10% would be 180 calories, carbs have roughly 4 calorie per gram : 45 g carb.
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In pratice most people on this forum probably don't eat 50% of their diet as carbs, so inevitably the fat and or protein percentages will be higher.
To put amounts into context the average fat intake in the UK is about 83g fat a day, thats 37% of total energy but averages cover a lot of variability. (individual but also variations according to region, ethnicity and household income)
viviennem said:There was no potato in moussaka before the late 16th century.
Viv 8)
cugila said:PastaShape said:What is missing. High bg numbers. Diabetic complications and lots of medication.
Yes........if you take a good look around this Forum there are many members here who use other methods who achieve exactly the same results. We are all different !
Wrunkelt, if this is the real he, was always an excellent challenging poster elsewhere. I seem to recall he was banned though, shame that.....he could be relied on to have a good discussion.....
viviennem said:There was no potato in moussaka before the late 16th century.
Viv 8)
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