Hi, I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes three years ago, I am not on Metformin, yet, and control my diabetes with diet and exercise, I have been looking at the low carb high fat diet and would like to go down this route if possible, but I am confused, because I am on statins to lower my cholesterol, but on this diet it suggests high fat, so I am unsure whether this is right for me, when I am trying to keep my cholesterol down, could somebody put me right on this issue?
High fat in an LCHF diet actually just means a higher pecentage of fats in proportion to the reduced number of carbs you would be eating - you are replacing one source of fuel for your energy with another - it's a sort of balancing act. So normal fat food rather than reduced/low fat (which is high in carbs/sugar) is what you would eat. And is what we ate prior to the scare stories regarding fat.
Dietary fat isn't our main source of cholesterol anyway as our bodies apparently make the majority of it. So unless you have a real need to eat a low fat diet, there's nothing to worry about.
Robbity
It would seem to me that the advise you had followed for so long that is highish carbs and low fat is precisely what has brought you here. We all for the most part were taken in by that.Thank you CherryAA, I am new to this forum, there is so much confusing data on the internet of do's and dont's, but the LCHF diet seems fairley straight forward, its just the fat and cholesterol side of things I was unsure about as I have always kept to low or no fat everything for years before I was diagnosed, so getting my head around this was difficult, but it's worth a go.
It would seem to me that the advise you had followed for so long that is highish carbs and low fat is precisely what has brought you here. We all for the most part were taken in by that.
I prefer to call it Low Carb Full Fat.That is true John, I am learning a lot on this forum already, there are so many conflicting articles out there and I can see from reading other peoples threads why it can be all so confusing, glad I found this.
Consider a low-carb/low-GI diet. Low-GI doesnt necessarily mean high fat. Check out Dr. Richard K Bernstein's plan (on the web and youtube). He is 83, type-1 since age 9, and apparently still in quite good health. His guidelines are a bit too strict, IMO, but his general concept is correct.
Fat is not the only glycemic buffer -- there's protein and fiber as well. If you are type-2, then you likely need to watch your cals as well. This necessitates prioritizing fiber first and foremost, then protein, then fat to reduce your meal GI as well as cals. This means... avoid starchy/sugary foods, eat plenty of leafy greens and other fiber rich and low-carb foods, some meat (not too much - cals), and minimal healthy fats (again, cals).
Diabetic-friendly fats: Olive oil (of course!) & butter (as CherryAA mentioned)... but also coconut oil, and mustard oil (the "olive oil" of central Asia -- if you like Indian food).
I am currently developing an app like no other, it will be a serious game-changer that will help folks in this area (accurate glycemic meal designing/calculating - not another lame calendar-planner-guesser), only it will provide massively more options than Bernstein's plan, while achieving the same results -- due to the massive amount of research and data collection I have done over several years. It's almost complete -- just need some more data regarding meals and people taking Lispro, (I asked a survey question on another thread in this forum - but no responses to the question yet). It is pretty much ready to go for people using R insulin and type-2. Getting meal info for Lispro users seems like pulling teeth. But I digress...
Oh, and by the way... last A1c was 4.8.. No lows below 50, very few below 60.... no highs over 300 for the past year, and very few (7%) above 200 (associated with cold/flu). 63% of BG checks in the 70-150 range.
As has been said by others you don't need to go full metal jacket fat. I added a sensible amount of fat initially and waited for a six month test to see effect on cholesterol. As time has gone on I have been more confident and my signature will give a view on how this has gone. You can use common sense and alternate days of higher fat with days of low fat. I tend to use eggs, salmon and tinned mackerel lots. A favourite which seems to be filling and to my mind healthy fat is mackerel in olive oil and avocado mashed on a half a Lidl High Protein roll. Incredibly filling and reviving after a workout or long walk.
Forgot to add I try to include lots of Chia seeds and or Flaxseed. I like to keep fibre content to 30 gms per day seems to help with potential blockages!
I think it takes time to adjust. I am now often able to go to 1 or 2 meals a day mostly missing breakfast. I have gradually come down to functioning at 20 gms of carbs a day. I would say go steady and test rigorously but not within an hour of high intensity exercise. Good luck and this forum is an excellent place for help and advice.[/QUOTE], I tend to get tired sooner at the gym or on a run, so this diet sounds good to me as I can use the good fats as that extra energy source I’ve been missing.
Please don't rely on medical advice from this forum it is replete with bro-science and wishful thinking. If you are going to go on a high fat diet the consequences for you will be higher ldl and higher hdl cholesterol this is indisputable. To get around this the high fat lobby will usually tell you cholesterol doesn't matter, this is far from true. The European Atherosclerosis Society Consensus Panel says this "Hi, I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes three years ago, I am not on Metformin, yet, and control my diabetes with diet and exercise, I have been looking at the low carb high fat diet and would like to go down this route if possible, but I am confused, because I am on statins to lower my cholesterol, but on this diet it suggests high fat, so I am unsure whether this is right for me, when I am trying to keep my cholesterol down, could somebody put me right on this issue?
I'm on a lchf diet and my cholesterol levels have lowered especially my trigliceride level, if as you say this is "bro-science" how do you explain mine and many other members good results on this diet?Please don't rely on medical advice from this forum it is replete with bro-science and wishful thinking. If you are going to go on a high fat diet the consequences for you will be higher ldl and higher hdl cholesterol this is indisputable. To get around this the high fat lobby will usually tell you cholesterol doesn't matter, this is far from true. The European Atherosclerosis Society Consensus Panel says this "
Conclusion
Consistent evidence from numerous and multiple different types of clinical and genetic studies unequivocally establishes that LDL causes (atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease )ASCVD."https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/38/32/2459/3745109
High fat diets for diabetes are a way of treating symptoms NOT the underlying cause they will make you confident in your numbers but are unlikely to stop the underlying problems of high blood fats that are causal for cvd that is the most likely death of a type 2 diabetic. diets for diabetes are ranked by experts here every year the best diets are dash, med, mayo, vegan ie high plant foods, not low fat but low in unhealthy fat (butter, coconut oil etc). The very worse diets from 33 onward are where you will find the low carb diets atkins etc https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-diabetes-diets
Remember these diets are ranked by experts not anonymous forum members who use broscience and quote shoddy industry funded studies designed to spread disinformation and sell a product (butter,bacon, eggs).
good luck. btw I will not be acknowledging or replying to the barrage of non science coming my way.This post was for the original poster and any lurkers. Incoming! lol
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