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Newly Diagnosed And A Little Scared And Confused.

CraigR70

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Hello all,

48 year old male from near Glasgow, Scotland here. At about 3.45pm today my GP did a urine and blood test and told me I am diabetic. Almost certainly type 2. I have been placed straight onto Metaformin 500mp per day for the first week increasing to 3 a day in week 3.

I had the red flag symptoms but it was the blurred vision and a visit to the opticians that prompted me to go my GP.

After a few decades of a pretty **** lifestyle I can only blame myself for not taking care of my self sooner.

I recently re-married and have a 3 year old daughter, so I have everything to live for and I WILL find it in me to live with this.
i will not become another West of Scotland statistic!
But right now a little scared and confused and wondering where to start.
 
Hi @CraigR70 and welcome
We've all been there don't worry.
I'll tag in @daisy1 for the intro to how a whole load of us have managed to control our condition and many have ended up almost being thankful for being diagnosed as we've got so much healthier.
In the meantime have a read around on the forum especially the success stories posts so you can get some idea what to do.
It's not a death sentence..(well no more than life is anyway) you can be in control and may well end up educating your doctor about some things too...
 
Hello all,

48 year old male from near Glasgow, Scotland here. At about 3.45pm today my GP did a urine and blood test and told me I am diabetic. Almost certainly type 2. I have been placed straight onto Metaformin 500mp per day for the first week increasing to 3 a day in week 3.

I had the red flag symptoms but it was the blurred vision and a visit to the opticians that prompted me to go my GP.

After a few decades of a pretty **** lifestyle I can only blame myself for not taking care of my self sooner.

I recently re-married and have a 3 year old daughter, so I have everything to live for and I WILL find it in me to live with this.
i will not become another West of Scotland statistic!
But right now a little scared and confused and wondering where to start.
Hi @CraigR70 You have come to the right place for reassurance. Although the amount of info can be bewildering, the beauty of the Forum is that you can ask whatever you want and the number of posters who have been relieved in a short space of time is truly impressive. I'm not surprised you are scared and confused - the problem with the big D is that people only know aqbout horror stories, often propagated in the media. I was a true horror story, but have come right through to my 60th and enjoying my family and six-year-old granddaughter. As one diabetologist said to me "It's all tied up in attitude." I wish you the very best of luck
 
Hi Craig and welcome.
Take some deep breaths and have a good old read about this forum, especially as @bulkbiker says, in the success stories sub forum, which you can find here:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/
Many of us have got things under control, resulting in normal blood sugar levels thus reducing our risks of complications and feeling much healthier too.
Please don’t blame yourself, there are loads of people not taking care of themselves that don’t end up with Diabetes, it’s just bad luck.
 
Welcome @CraigR70 if you look at the signatures of most of the replies so far even if you don't understand what the numbers mean, in short they reflect reversal / remission of Type 2. Many of us are in better shape both in health and fitness than we have been for decades. Take a look at this site for an easy to understand option how to get started: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds
 
Hello all,

48 year old male from near Glasgow, Scotland here. At about 3.45pm today my GP did a urine and blood test and told me I am diabetic. Almost certainly type 2. I have been placed straight onto Metaformin 500mp per day for the first week increasing to 3 a day in week 3.

I had the red flag symptoms but it was the blurred vision and a visit to the opticians that prompted me to go my GP.

After a few decades of a pretty **** lifestyle I can only blame myself for not taking care of my self sooner.

I recently re-married and have a 3 year old daughter, so I have everything to live for and I WILL find it in me to live with this.
i will not become another West of Scotland statistic!
But right now a little scared and confused and wondering where to start.
Welcome Craig you’ve taken the first big important step finding this site and the knowledge that you can take control and start improving your health.
Www.dietdoctor.com
Is also another good site to get to know it will help you to starting looking at what you eat and drink and how a few simple changes can turn things around.
Many of us here have got over the shock of the diagnosis and changed things for the better turning things round to such an extent that we are now loads fitter it can be done step by step.
Read as much as you can and use the shock of your diagnosis to turn things round. You’re certainly not to blame for where you are now we all got there for a range of reasons but we can improve things you’ll get there
 
Hi @CraigR70 and welcome to the forum,

I just have two pieces of advice. The first is to buy yourself a blood glucose meter otherwise you are working blind. They can be used to test before and after eating to see what that meal has done to your levels, giving you chance to work out which your personal danger foods are - some of which will come as a big surprise because it really is not just sugar.

Second is to make sure you know all your numbers from your tests, and which tests they were. In Scotland there is a website that you can register for that allows you access to your test results - https://www.mydiabetesmyway.scot.nhs.uk/ or failing that, you can ask the GP receptionist for a print out. It is important you know where you are and how much you need to do to gain control over this disease. It isn't just the blood glucose scores, it is also cholesterol, lipids and triglycerides, plus liver and kidney functions that are of utmost importance for us. Anything you don't understand all you have to do is ask on here.

Good luck. :)
 
Hello all,

48 year old male from near Glasgow, Scotland here. At about 3.45pm today my GP did a urine and blood test and told me I am diabetic. Almost certainly type 2. I have been placed straight onto Metaformin 500mp per day for the first week increasing to 3 a day in week 3.

I had the red flag symptoms but it was the blurred vision and a visit to the opticians that prompted me to go my GP.

After a few decades of a pretty **** lifestyle I can only blame myself for not taking care of my self sooner.

I recently re-married and have a 3 year old daughter, so I have everything to live for and I WILL find it in me to live with this.
i will not become another West of Scotland statistic!
But right now a little scared and confused and wondering where to start.

Hi mate,

I was in a very similar situation with you last year and I changed my life style 100%.

I changed my diet to low-carb high fat diet and exercised every single day.

Hope this helps -

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

Andrew
 
Hello all,

48 year old male from near Glasgow, Scotland here. At about 3.45pm today my GP did a urine and blood test and told me I am diabetic. Almost certainly type 2. I have been placed straight onto Metaformin 500mp per day for the first week increasing to 3 a day in week 3.

I had the red flag symptoms but it was the blurred vision and a visit to the opticians that prompted me to go my GP.

After a few decades of a pretty **** lifestyle I can only blame myself for not taking care of my self sooner.

I recently re-married and have a 3 year old daughter, so I have everything to live for and I WILL find it in me to live with this.
i will not become another West of Scotland statistic!
But right now a little scared and confused and wondering where to start.
Hey Craig,

First off: You'll be okay. For one thing, you have two motivating factors: your new wife and your child. Motivation makes it easier to really get your back into it, so yay for them, they're lifesavers! ;) Secondly, you came here: Fount of information, and I wish I'd found it sooner in my journey, because it would've shaved months off of my search for the right balance in just about everything.

So, you're a Type 2, which means you can't process carbs out again. All carbs turn to sugar once ingested, including the savory ones, so it's not just actual refined sugar that's the baddy here. So... Cut carbs. The ones that spike the lot of us the most, besides the refined stuff, are potatoes, rice, cereal, corn, underground veggies, and pasta. Anything wheat based. (Yes, that means the "good" brown stuff too. There are no truly healthy carbs, not for us.) Fruit too, though berries in moderation seem to be fine. Especially with cream or full fat greek yoghurt. So what's left then? Bacon! :) Yeah, okay, kidding, there's more, but I just really have come to love my bacon, and yes, my cholesterol is back to good, thank you for asking, I'm off the statins while eating more fat now than I've ever done in my life. ;) So, there's still meat and fish, eggs, cheese, cream and the aformented yoghurt, above-ground veggies and leafy greens, olines, nuts, seeds, what have you. For me, my meals look like this, usually: scrambled eggs with bacon and cheese, maybe mushrooms or cherry tomaties for variety. Salad with tuna or salmon, mayo, capers and olives. Cauliflower rice (versatile stuff, that!) with bacon and cheese, and meat or fish. At home it's easy, but when we're out I used to be stumped. Often I'd go for a salmon salad or eggs, but those aren't always available. Then it turned out I could still, in case of emergency, go to Burger King and McD's, if I just left the bun off the hamburger. They don't even bat an eye at that order, so you're not alone if you ask for a bunless burger. (I find it's easier to add extra greens and bacon to the burger at BK's... More filling meal.). Snacks, you say? Cubes of cheese, olives, walnuts, spicy sausages... Whatever works. Personally, I started on low carb high fat 2 years ago and my bloodsugars normalised. 4 Months or so ago I started on keto (a ketogenic diet, fatburning) and that's been making my average of 3 months bloodsugar, my HbA1c, absolutely beautiful. Really, it's a kissable result. One I never thought I would achieve when I first started. I know others have suggested it already, but the dietdoctor.com website really does have wonderful suggestions for a variety of foods.

So, besides a diet change, what else helps? Though you can't outrun a bad diet, and for us, carbs = bad, taking walks helps. If you've got the time of course. But dropping the carbs will also, in all likelyhood, mean you'll lose weight anyway. And other than that, as has also been suggested before: get thyself a meter! NHS doesn't like to pay for them so you'll have to self-fund, like most of us, but it's an invaluable tool without which you're flying blind. Check bloods before you et and 2 hours after the first bite. If it's up more than 2 mmol/l, the meal was too carby and shouldn't be revisited, or maybe reduced in portion size instead. It helps if you know what your body responds to and how. It's a lot of pricking in the beginning, but after a while you know what food won't spike you and what does, so though it's an expensive excersize at first, it is more than worth it.

When first diagnosed I felt like I was as good as dead already. I wish I'd had this place then to tell me I would be doing more living instead of less, after diagnosis. I enjoy the food I eat more, and I'm able to do the things I couldn't, for years, because my diabetes went undiagnosed for a long time... I was exhausted upon waking. Couldn't walk any distance, just existed and was miserable. This past summer vacation I did a whole lot of walking in a variety of cities, hauling my camera equipment with me... And I just kept going, day after day, without having to sit down every 5 minutes or having to take a week after being active for a day to recuperate, in spite of other physical, non-diabetes related problems trying to throw a wrench in. It gets better, once you know what your body needs. So much better.

Good luck!
Jo
 
Welcome to the forum @CraigR70 . We have all been where you are now. Where did that diagnosis come from? It must be my fault, because everyone says it is. What can I eat when my body is behaving in this way? I don't want to eat anymore because whatever I eat will raise my bg level, but I must eat at some point because I have to live and others depend on me. There are a load of conflicting emotions running around right now. You can not out run them and have to work through them for yourself, but be assured it is not your fault, there is no point in looking back just look forward a determine to do the best you can with the cards you have been dealt and be grateful that we know a bit more about diabetes than they did a while ago. If it helps here is my action plan:
1) buy a bg meter so you know what is going on inside your body when you eat.
2) set up a spreadsheet to record what you eat, exercise taken, bg results ( a nuisance initially but invaluable as a tool to find out what you can eat, drink, how your mood changes etc. you can add to it as you want as the weeks pass and you start to notice patterns)

With those two things and the support of this forum I worked out the rest for myself. 2/3 years on I am slimmer, fitter and eating a range of food that is the envy of my colleagues at work, and yes I do still go out for the occasional meal with them. At a push most places will take out potatoes and add a small salad or extra vegetables. There have been hiccups along the way, but the general trend has been to 'normalise' my bg and to be drug free. It has been interesting to find out a lot more about my own body and to spend a little time thinking about me in the welter of life thinking of others. Best wishes on your journey.
 
Hi. Don't panic as we've all been there. If your BMI is a bit high then a lower-carb diet will surely help a lot. Metformin always helps a bit but not a lot so the right diet is key. Do come back with any questions.
 
Thank you all for your kind words of support. It genuinely means alot to me to find such help.
In fact as bulkbiker says its not a death sentence, far from it. This has been the kick up the **** i have needed and I intend to beat this or at worst keep very much under control.

One question I'd like to ask though; when reading labels for carbs is it the "of which sugars xx%" that counts or the other one?
Excuse my total ignorance.

There is so much good advice on here. Thanks again for your help.
 
It's total carbs we need to know, the 'of which sugars' is pretty much irrelevant as all carbs turn to glucose in the body.

Welcome from me too:)
 
@CraigR70

Hello Craig and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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You have done well to find that label, as @zand has already posted, it is the 'total carbs' figure that counts, but also watch the figure that is given for each portion. Usually there are a few microdots that suggest that a pack contains 5/6/7 portions, work out how many grams each portion would be and from that how many carbs approximately in each portion. I hope you like maths because sometimes it is quite challenging even with rounding the figures! The alternative is to buy the raw ingredients, substitute lower carb ones where necessary and make your own soups etc.
 
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