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PHE scrapped??

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by HSSS, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    I see the government are trying to blame PHE for their failings. And putting yet more power and money into private companies like SERCO.
     
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  2. ZedZeeZet

    ZedZeeZet Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Paywalls etc.
    If one presses the Escape key whilst a page is loading it stops any further data being loaded..
    Most paywall dialogues are displayed after the main text has already d/loaded..
    F5 reloads a page.
    Takes practice in the timing.
     
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  3. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    Yeah I’ve been trying that idea and it’s not working. iPads don’t have function keys, the X to halt loading doesn’t seem to have the same effect as escape
     
  4. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    My thoughts were more about the relevance to food guidelines in asking if it went beyond covid issues.
     
  5. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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  6. DavidGrahamJones

    DavidGrahamJones Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if that will do the work previously done by the Threats, Hazards, Resilience and Contingency Committee (THRCC), a team of senior ministers charged with preparing the country for a pandemic.

    The committee was suspended by Mrs May to concentrate on Brexit and then scrapped all together by BoJo when he became PM and just six months before the outbreak of Covid19.

    I expect the experts that might have been in that committee have already been pensioned off by Dominic Cummings.
     
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  7. Squire Fulwood

    Squire Fulwood Type 2 · Expert

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    Sir Ian Duncan Smith said something to effect that they fail at everything they try to do.

    Sir Iain has apparently welcomed the news and said: “The one thing consistent about Public Health England is that almost everything it has touched has failed.”

    That is a harsh statement but things I looked into were the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition which Zoe Harcombe debunked, the Healthy Eating Plate (or whatever it is called now) and the traffic light labelling system. I have never been a fan and agree that they need looking into.
     
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  8. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    Have to say once I became aware of their existence they seem to be failing at an awful lot. It does indeed seem from many more stories today that it is the entire organisation going, one report saying the diet and weight management aspects going back to councils and gp’s.
     
  9. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    Public Health England being disbanded? Good. It was a shambles long before this pandemic.
     
  10. Fairygodmother

    Fairygodmother Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been told that the person responsible for PHE is Matt Hancock. I’m wondering if PHE, with its long history of poor advice, is being made into a diversionary fall guy for all the other failings that have accumulated?
     
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  11. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    The PHE is dead! Long live England.

    I never realistically expected to see this happen. That august and influential body seemed to be the epitome of Government health policy. How are the mighty fallen. Booted off their pedestal.

    They are indeed being lambasted for their failings, which we have highlighted for some time here in the Forum. They are called out for what they are, a private quango with powers beyond their understanding. Unfortunately they are being replaced by a similar Conservative led body which is not expected to become online for at least 6 months. PHE is under a 1 month notice of cancellation.

    I fear that it is the pandemic issue that dominates, and it is not clear who will take over the nutrition side of things. They do not appear to be replacing SACN, which is at the core of those activities so I do not expect any miracle to be enacted. I doubt that Alison Tedstone will be seeking fresh employment.

    What is buried in this flurry of news is that the Test and Trace operations are also being scrapped and merged into the new quango under Baroness Dido Harding. The workforce have already been given their marching orders and several thousand will be laid off from next week.
     
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  12. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    As far as IDS is concerned it's very much a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
     
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  13. Fairygodmother

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    Dido Harding’s husband, John Penrose, is on the advisory board of 1828 which wants the NHS to be replaced by an insurance system. Watch this space. Oh, and Serco’s sure done a good job, gee thanks Dido.
     
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  14. Max68

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    Totally agree. IDS running of the DWP that allegedly destroyed the lives of thousands of disabled and ill people is nothing short of a disgrace.
     
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  15. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Taking the fall for Hancock. It won't make the blindest bit of difference to anything.
     
  16. Fairygodmother

    Fairygodmother Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    But what replaces it might
     
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  17. DavidGrahamJones

    DavidGrahamJones Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm beginning to think that getting rid of PHE is a bit like getting rid of a dictator like Saddam Husein for example. What replaces it might be even worse.
     
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  18. JohnEGreen

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    He was also part of the government that set up PHE in the first place the same party PHE has always been controlled by the same party that is now pointing the finger at it's own institution and replacing it what hypocrisy.
     
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  19. lindisfel

    lindisfel · Well-Known Member

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    Government grades
    Pandemic U
    Examination assessments U
    Planning for Brexit U
    Not accepting any blame for any mistakes A*
     
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